Posts by arachnia

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Dr. Phil is a Bozo

by troucul in

sorry i had to say that...all this clown does is recycle common knowledge.

all he is doing is spewing forth common sense.

it's amazing what people will do for money these days.

I've only seen him twice, and that's quite enough for me. He was spouting off some tripe to people with addictions: "Well there's something missing in your life that you are trying to fill with >insert their particular addiction here< as if that some sort of freaking revelation to them. Thank you, Captain Obvious! =P

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So fed up!!!!! New here!

by Shytears in

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hmm,i dont how too start off,but ill try,so im 16 yrs old,im being raised as a jw,and it is hard as hell,sometimes i think,if this is the right religion arent you suppose to be happy??

?well i really cant do anything about that because my parents say no way they will let me go in "the world" nonsense!so im stuck here ,lonely,depressed,and confused,sometimes i wish id die,but i know that wont help nothing.i want out of this org so bad,but i cant do nothing about it.there always telling me dont let satan and the bad asscioates influence you!im sick of that.all my friends well i shold say my ex friends they never helped me,my as they say:worldy friends did.. also i really really like this guy,i know he like me but he is worldy and i wish so badly i could date him,(i hate the term worldy,so stupid)my parents seriously will not give me space and they are stuck up my @ss.please if u have any commets i would sincerly appriciate it:) laura

arachnia

Hi Shytears,

I'm sorry to hear about your frustration with your current situation - it's quite understandable. Many of us have walked your path and later successfully made it out. I'm going to say some of the same things everyone else has, but hopefully it's helpful to hear some common things emphasized and it will show how important they are. Education is the first thing, make it your top priority. You cannot imagine the doors it opens for you in your life until you see all those that remain closed without it. You will be far happier if you pursue it while you are young and better able to dedicate yourself to it. Youth has the advantages of stamina, enthusiasm, and the ability to absorb information quickly. Ironically, this is why the JW's doggedly pursue their own youths to focus "on the kingdom" - because they recognize the value of the previous statement. It is easier to indoctrinate someone when they are young and a "clean slate" so to say. Learn to utilize critical thinking and logic to evaluate the things you are taught, the things you read, and the things you experience. I have a couple of websites that will help to introduce you to these concepts:
http://www.csicop.org/si/9012/critical-thinking.html
http://www.datanation.com/fallacies/

Also, as difficult as it is at your age, try to keep the focus off of guys and on yourself. Don't get deeply involved with anyone so that the course of your life is forever altered by choosing to pursue a relationship with them. That's not to say that the outcome of dating someone will always have long-lasting consequences, but it certainly can, especially if you have been raised to believe that dating is is a process by which one evaluates another as a marraige prospect. It can eventually lead to that stage, but it should not have such gravity for some time, especially not at your age. Be free and get to know yourself and your needs, your hopes, your dreams, and your desires so that you can better know who will make a good partner to you and you to them. Start a list of qualities you need in a partner, those you want in a partner, and those which are completely unacceptable. Keep the list updated over time, adding and deleting as necessary. Evaluate anyone you start to seriously date against it and see how they measure up. (Of course, don't tell them about this! LOL) ;-) Love and lust make us do some crazy shit, so while you aren't consumed by it with a particular someone, make your list, then check it twice, and then pull it out if you start thinking, "this is the one!" and see how it looks.

Finally, if you leave the religion, you will have to face the reality that your parents may shun you as a consequence. Prepare yourself for the possibility. If it doesn't happen, excellent, but if it does, you will at least be partly prepared. I'm fortunate in that my parents are no longer in the religion either. However, I have had to deal with other shunning (I'm DA'd) and I find that recognizing that it is the other person's CHOICE to do it and not that I am evil (well, OK, sometimes I might be, just a little...) >;)~ does help. To be honest, I'm to the point now where it means so little to me as to not affect me.

You have a tough road ahead, but it's well worth travelling down in order to live your live as a free person. Hang in there and keep your chin up! :)

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need fluff? Tell some corny church sign sayings

by LyinEyes in

i live in the south , very heavy bible belt.

there is a church on every corner.

they always have a sign out front with some very corny saying.

arachnia

Here's a couple of my favorites:

"The Most Powerful Position is On Your Knees"

"Don't Let Worries Kill You, Let the Church Help."

Photos of both are at:
http://members.fortunecity.com/dflash/id121.htm

And here are some others (text only).

http://www.kudzoojesus.com/HideTheKids.htm

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LAS VEGAS ANYONE???

by plmkrzy in

jw
friends

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a few of us will be in vegas in december ( 4th, 5th and 6th) who wants to meet up?

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arachnia

Hubby and I will be there in another week, actually. He's going for a work seminar being held there and I get to tag along on the company's tab (we just had to pay the airfare). Should be fun!

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Governing Body Summoned For Jud Hearing

by silentlambs in

jw
friends

service committee .

25 columbia heights

brooklyn, ny 11201 .

arachnia

:I know the Mormon's practice baptism of the dead. But come on a judicial hearing to accuse 5 members of the GB....3 unable to answer the accuser???? What's up with that?

Heh...they could follow in the footsteps of the Catholic Church.

The Cadaver Synod

I know, I know...I'm just sayin'. hehehe....

Cheers,

Arachnia
Trickster Class

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Governing Body Summoned For Jud Hearing

by silentlambs in

jw
friends

service committee .

25 columbia heights

brooklyn, ny 11201 .

arachnia

Satire has been used effectively throughout history to make very serious, valid points and effect reform by ridiculing foolish, hypocritical, and arrogant behaviors. Aristophanes, Horace, Shakespeare, Jonathan Swift, Lord Byron, Sinclair Lewis, James Thurber, Aldous Huxley, Mark Russell...the list goes on. All of them have used satire effectively to make their points, and some have even effected change. Perhaps it isn't overnight change, but sometimes satire gets people thinking about a situation in a different way than they normally would, it opens their minds a bit so that they can see other possibilities.

So satire, when properly executed, can be quite effective. Hopefully this letter serves the purpose of opening some eyes to the hypocricy. And even if it doesn't, it's damn funny. ;)

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Ex-JW/current "apostate" from Jackso...

by HarleyIsis in

arachnia

Hi there,

Well, I'm not in Jackson, but in the proximity at least- I live in Detroit. I DA'd myself six(?) years ago *counts back*. Well round about that anyways. :) Welcome to the boards!

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Wait until you hear this

by jeannie in

jw
friends

i called info today and asked for the number for the wt in brooklyn...and sure enough..the info operator said they are no longer listed..she thought it was very strange since she gave out this number many times..and cynthia also told me they arent on the internet either....anyway this is me (cosurvivor) jeannie..i am pooped!!!

what a week...the march was great..the people wonderful...the new friendships amazing...larry thanks so much for the pix and for helping me get the permits...i had a great time at the hotel and didnt want to leave..i loved hooking up with ericka and her mom..laurie..cynthia..pat..sherry..and of course the anderson, pandellos and the bowens...received a call over the weekend while i was away..(left the day after the march) one of the supporters and mother of a survivor..was visited by the elders here in ny..i will have to call her tonight since she is working now..will let you all know what happened...to all the girls and ttboy..and others..i miss you all !!!

gutsy..we really hit it off didnt we?

arachnia

I just did a search at Switchboard.com for Watchtower in Brooklyn NY and here are the results. Kinda interesting what category they are listed under. I just tried calling information here (Detroit, MI - TalkAmerica is my provider) and was given the same response - no listing. Interesting.

Cheers,
~Trase

Nazi SS Chief Himmler; admirer of jws

by sf in

jw
friends

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http://groups.google.com/groups?dq=&hl=en&lr=&ie=utf-8&safe=off&th=a524d280d24c361f

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arachnia

Actually I went to the Troy, MI congregation for awhile and Himmler's grandson and his wife attended that hall; she makes jewelry and created my friend's engagement ring for her. I think they go to the Port Huron, MI hall now?

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Halloween Is Coming- wanna have some fun??

by xenawarrior in

jw
friends

http://www.jack-o-lantern.com/patterns/patterns.html

if you've never carved pumpkins- it's a blast!!!.

and then: pumpkin seeds!!!!!!!.

arachnia

I have a pumpkin recipe to contribute. It's not for everyone, but this is one of my favorite Autumn meals:
Pumpkin-Bacon Soup
Ingredients
1/2 large onion, chopped
1/2 pound of bacon, chopped
(2) 15-ounce can of pumpkin
2 cups water
4 cups apple cider
1/4 cup brown sugar
4 cubes (2 tsp) chicken bouillon
1 Gala apple, unpeeled and chopped
Dash of liquid smoke
Sea salt, to taste
1 1/2 teaspoons white pepper
1/3 cup crystallized ginger, chopped
5 Moonbello sized (about 2 1/2 inches in diameter) mushrooms, chopped and crumbled
Lightly saute onion, mushrooms, and bacon in large pot (I used a cast iron pot with a lid) for about 15-20 minutes. Add pumpkin, water, apple cider, brown sugar, chicken bouillon, apple, liquid smoke, salt, white pepper, and crystallized ginger to the pot. Cover and simmer for 1 hour. Stir frequently. Puree in food processor or blender. Serve with sour cream - one dollop on each serving, and warm crusty bread.

Edited by - arachnia on 22 September 2002 16:34:17