Well, you can be sure that he'll do whatever will make himself look good, especially after his dismal response to hurricane katrina. Afterall, image is the primary concern to him and his cronies.
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Bush Goofs Again!
by Oroborus21 inpresident bush says that he is going to texas to visit the state where hurrican rita will hit.
but the eyewall is probably going to actually make landfall in louisiana!
well i suppose he has to let all his supporters in texas know that he cares.
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oHi, short introduction
by Sugarcane inglad i found this board and hope to have some interesting discussions.
i'll post my story later today, but in the meantime; i'm a single parent with 2 kids, was a jw for 26 years in total (born one, left at 17 years, went back at 21), became inactive 4 years ago and disassociated myself 4 weeks ago!.
my experience with the bible org.
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Well jus set yoahself down 'suga' an stay ah while (in my northern wisconsin version of a fake southern drawl). Come on you southerners, show her how it's really done.
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Why am I so happy?
by jwfacts insince i stopped going to meetings about six months ago i have been getting happier and happier and don't know why.
i don't know who god is anymore, or if there is an afterlife.
i don't have as many friends as i used to, though i am starting to build new ones.
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When you are no longer confined to expectations of what should make you happy you will naturally gravitate toward happiness. A large part of this is the relinquishing of any and all ideas of what god is. Those ideas are imposed upon you and in letting them go there is the possibility of discovering what the word 'god' is pointing to.
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In the middle of spiritual agnst, what do you do?
by ginger77 inplease, huge warning, if you're an angry ex-jw, save your bs advice, i dont' need to hear you put jw's down just to give advice.. i was raised a jw & am still bitter over injustice growing up at the hands of my elder father, and bitter over the abuse of my ex-husband.. i miss my fam, i miss peace, i miss a sense of belonging.
any advice on how to gain inner peace w/o selling myself out?.
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bebu said "They live more in the moment because they have no choice in the matter, not because they 'wisely' choose it."
I would ask, how many of us live in the moment? We do have a choice, yet most squander the present moment by dwelling in the past or thinking about the future and thereby miss what actually is here right now. This present moment is all there is, all there ever was, and all that ever will be. This present moment is beyond time, is eternity itself, yet we foolishly look for answers somewhere else, and that is why spiritual agnst and other 'problems' arise.
JamesThomas - great to see you here once again.
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OK! Ya'll busted us.. Hibi and I are.............................
by defd inactually married.
why hide it.
yall were beginning to figure it out anyway.
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Would anyone be surprised at this?
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Anyone read "The Jesus Mysteries"?
by poppers insubtitled, "was the 'original jesus' a pagan god?
" by timothy freke and peter gandy.
from amazon's editorial review: .
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Subtitled, "Was the 'Original Jesus' a Pagan God?" by Timothy Freke and Peter Gandy. From Amazon's Editorial Review:"Freke (a philospher and author of books on spirituality) and Gandy (who is studying classical civilization) believe that first century Jewish mystics adapted the potent symbolism of the Osiris-Dionysus myths into a myth of their own, the hero of which was the Jewish dying and resurrecting godman Jesus. Therefore, the story of Jesus is a consciously crafted vehicle for encoded spiritual teachings created by Jewish Gnostics. We are unaware of this, they claim, because the Roman Catholic Church destroyed evidence of the connection between Christianity and the pagan mysteries. They make their case by offering an examination of mystery religions, especially Greek, pointing out the many parallels between them and what they see as the Gospels! message about Jesus. Freke and Gandy are familiar with a significant amount of recent biblical scholarship, though they rely mostly on Elaine Pagels!s work on the Gnostics. This book will obviously be controversial, but the authors are quite informed, as demonstrated by their extensive notes and bibliography. A list of related web sites, a Who!s Who, and an index add to the book!s usefulness. Recommended as an important book in the debate on the historical Jesus."David Bourquin, California State Univ., San Bernardino
Copyright 2000 Reed Business Information,"I found it to be very interesting, especially the stuff on Gnosticism.
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Afraid to be happy--------------------
by vitty in....................at the moment lifes great, i feel really happy for the first time in a long time, im in a beautiful area, with fantastic views, weve just bought a beautiful house and the relief of not being in the borg anymore, well i dont think things could be better.. but im quite nervous, why do i feel things will go wrong, im not talking about the material stuff, but somewhere deep down i feel in the end you have to pay when your happy.
i have always felt like this.
maybe i dont feel i quite deserve it, espacially when terrible things are happening to other ppl.
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If you are looking for unconditional happiness it will never be found in outward circumstances or derived from mental viewpoints; circumstances change and with them so will viewpoints. The mind will always search for 'something more' as soon as a circumstance presents itself which is satisfactory to any mental viewpoint - the happiness will be fleeting and then you will wonder why, and so a new condition will be created in the hope that in meeting it happiness will be found.
The key in finding lasting and unconditional happiness lies in discovering what one actually is at the core of one's being - in other words, in discovering 'what am I?' Afterall, events and circumstances seem to be happening to 'me' so it is essential to find out just who this 'me' is that things seem to be happening to, but hardly anyone bothers to ask that question because the answer seems to be so obvious: why, I'm me of course. But are you? Have you actually investigated to find out just what you really are?
When searched for, the 'me' cannot be found as a separate and distinct entity. People will find ideas about who/what they think they are, but those are only ideas. Can you be an idea? Surely you can sense that you exist without any idea arising can't you? Without resorting to the mind there is a definite and distinct knowing that you are, and it is in this 'knowingness' that unconditional happiness can be found. This 'knowingess' is what you actually are, and not any idea which arises within that knowingess. Without this 'knowingness' nothing could be known, including ideas of who you think you are.
Other names for this knowingness are consciousness, awareness, being, presence, spaciousness, and all kinds of other labels. But these words are labels only - the key is in discovering directly what these words point to and then live your life from there, rather than from the mental image that one has created for oneself. Then fear evaporates spontaneously since fear is just a projection created by the mind. What you are is beyond the mind and any projections it can create or memories that it can dredge up.
Remain present to what is, right now in this very moment. When the mind pulls you into thinking about what is return to the present moment - it is in this present moment, right here right not that unconditional happiness resides - simply see it. You as consciousness remain always, untouched - full and complete. There is nothing that needs to be done to achieve it because it already is here, but it goes unnoticed because the mind habitually retreats into thinking about the past or projecting into the future. Instead of following the mind's activity return to the present moment whenever you catch yourself thinking about what is. Without the mind's intereference, you as consciousness become more easily seen, and in this seeing happiness will be found that is lasting and unconditional.
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Name One Wish You're Glad Went Unfulfilled
by Ingenuous ini'm glad god never granted my "wish" for a husband while i was still in the org.
i'd be hurtin' a lot more right now if i was married/involved.
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I am glad that the one I thought was my "true love" didn't return to me. Had that happened I don't believe I would have sought the deeper meaning of life.
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I'm soooo happy!
by G Money ini do have odd luck with the ladies.
not that i lack meeting them or being able to get a date but just seem to meet the wrong ones or ones that bore me or girls that live 1,000s of miles away.
i just broke off a relationship a few weeks back and have had mixed feelings about dating right now.
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Glad to hear it. It's always nice to hear and read of others' happy experiences.
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Not DA'd, Not DF'd - but pretty much Disowned...
by Ingenuous ini just came from what will probably be the last conversation i'll ever have with my father.
earlier in the day, i'd talked to my mom and she asked what i was up to - translated "what are you doing with yourself since you aren't going to meetings or out in service?
" i told her i'd been discussing the bible with an informal group of people and reading older wts literature.
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Sorry you're going through all of this Ingenuous.
"He accused me of throwing away everything I had learned,"
If you are drowning, better to let go of that which would pull you further underwater. BTW, I really like your avatar.