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  George Carlin on religion

  by poppers in

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  just came across this - some may be offended, but ya gotta remember, this is carlin.

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  http://www.objectivethought.com/atheism/carlin.html

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  poppers

  Just came across this - some may be offended, but ya gotta remember, this is Carlin.
  
  http://www.objectivethought.com/atheism/carlin.html
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  An Explanation of my final comments on the show

  by jschwehm in

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  i apologize for anything i said that may have offended anyone.

  my intent was to be as charitable toward my jehovah's witness brothers and sisters as possible but also to be truthful about the differences between the jws and the historic christian faith which are many.

  i hope that i succeeded in this.

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  Hi Jeff,
  
  I have watched the show 3 times now and was impressed with your presentation. I have never been a jw but was raised a Catholic (though no longer), so I appreciate where you are coming from. I am looking forward to the roundtable discussion - will you be among the participants?
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  Two Grannies Show Compassion--When JWs Will Not!

  by Voyager in

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  some soldiers who have family that are jws receive (no) mail or packages at all.

  so there are two grannies who take up the slack and show compassion when the jws will not!.

  http://www.wlox.com/global/story.asp?s=2928307&nav=6djhwd7s .

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  Having been in the service myself I know how much mail means when you are far from home, and being in harms way makes it that much more meaningful. What a wonderful way to show support; conversely, I don't know how those jw families can look at themselves in the mirror.
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  TELL ME A STORY...

  by under74 in

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  i was just in hippi's "i'm back" thread and he can't come up with a story.

  the story can be about anything.

  it can be true or completely made up.

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  poppers

  Make that "floating in the wind pool"
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  TELL ME A STORY...

  by under74 in

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  i was just in hippi's "i'm back" thread and he can't come up with a story.

  the story can be about anything.

  it can be true or completely made up.

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  poppers

  The bars had just closed...I was standing at an intersection waiting for the light to change. It was a foggy night in the city, the streets were empty and it was late...She appeared outta nowhere and started talking to me as though we were already in the middle of a conversation. I don't think I'd ever seen her before, but the more I listened to her the more I realized there was something about her that I recognized.
  
  Then it hit me...like when you step on a rake and the handle thwaps you right between the eyes! Huh, I'd known her before alright, only in another place a long time ago. Suddenly she was as familiar to me as an old couch, but she looked like a chaise lounge to me. She was the kinda woman who could lie naked on a beach in Tahiti but all you'd be lookin' at was the shape of her fawn eyes as she dropped her lids over them. She didn't take my breath away, she put it back...I realized I hadn't been breathing right for a long time.
  
  My only thought was she's so beautiful that it scares me. The funny thing is, is the more I listened to her the more I remembered...little pictures would drift into my mind...
  
  There was the time long long ago on our own planet when we went floating into the wind pool, just the two of us...looking up at the red moons through the rain.
  
  And the time we stood in the white cloud tower, our robes blowing in the storm, and we promised to love each other forever and ever...
  
  I felt her hand on my arm and she said, "Where did you go?" Suddenly I remembered that horrendous battle on Andares when they carried me away on my shield and she was crying. We took off as fast as we could after that...we had to get away from those electric guns. We kept on goin' and travelled to San Bartan on the desert planet and hid out, we took all our stuff. For several years we traded stolen water for gold. It was the kind of life that had an edge to it, but...I got tired of killin' informers.
  
  Then I got into some real trouble on Sayka 5...I strangled the king. They locked me up for the night, and I lost my head in the village square in the morning...we kinda lost touch after that. Although, I thought I saw her planet, Chella, once several years later, in one of those air-tight rooms where they show pictures, but by the time I got there she was gone.
  
  And then during the years and years I was racing in space, I...well, I guess I just forgot about her, although she'd always been a mystery to me. I was so busy travelling from galaxy to galaxy
  I had no time for anything else.
  
  And then, finally, I came to this planet a few years ago, and if anyone had asked I woulda said I didn't know her, but I'd like to - I woulda been tellin' the truth.
  
  But, here she was now, standing in front of me, and I remembered our promise. I put my hands on either side of her face and said, "Oh, I missed you girl...it was too long a time to be away. But, here we are, again...the traffic light has turned green...shall we, shall we cross over to the other side?"
  
  She gave me a kiss and said, "Yeah...if we do it together." And we did.
  
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  This was written by the actor Geoffrey Lewis and performed by his storytelling group called "Celestial Navigations". I have told this story many times in school, with slight modification...the kids always enjoy it.
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  AlmostAtheist, Your Answer to PM

  by JamesThomas in

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  sorry, i seem able to receive pm's, however when i send a reply they die in transit.

  curse of the apple computer i guess.

  so lets resurrect what i sent back to you when you ask about my beliefs: .

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  poppers

  Hi JT,
  
  Reading your words is to look into a cool, deep, still pond and to discover that what is seen there is my Self. Perhaps others who read your words will see the same. Thanks for sharing.
  
  poppers
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  Jehovah's witnesses cooperative

  by Polemotheos in

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  dear brothers and sisters, servants of god, jehovah's witnesses, ex-jw's, opposers, apostates, and athiests.. jehovah's witnesses need your help.

  i would like to thank you for all the work you have done so far.

  we need as many critics as we can get.

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  "Ego is the formost problem of mankind not exclusive to one religious group. How do you suggest killing the ego?"
  
  You can't kill the ego, for who would attempt such a thing other than ego itself, but there can be the realization that it isn't real. Look for it and it can't be found outside of ideas of what it is. See what ego arises in and all of the storylines created by ego are seen to be just that, stories that have no real substance. Then you will find a peace and stillness that is always here, that is unconditional and eternal.
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  New here

  by Delta20 in

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  my name is jaron, 19 years old, i'm from the netherlands, and in about a month i am going to start joining the jw's meetings and i'm kind of looking forward to become a jw.

  i can of course tell ya'll my entire spiritual story, but that would take an entire bookwork.

  in a nuttshell: my father is an ex-jw, my half-sis (from an earlier marriage from my dads) is one of those "special pioneers", and i am jewish (my mom is jewish).

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  "Well, I am convinced that God exists, and that the bible is the Word of God, and that we should follow the way of the apostles, and I think a religion that does that helps, encourages you to do so. It is always much harder to do things by yourself then if you do it with a group. Why do the former if you can have the latter?"
  
  Being 'convinced' of anything is a mental position. When dreaming we are convinced that the others in our dream are real and separate from us; upon awakening we see that that was untrue.
  
  Following someone else's lead is to follow someone else who is also asleep and dreaming, but doesn't know it. A whole group that is sleeping doesn't mean they have the answers, only a shared delusion. Wake up to who and what you are and there will be no need to follow anyone.
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  New here

  by Delta20 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  my name is jaron, 19 years old, i'm from the netherlands, and in about a month i am going to start joining the jw's meetings and i'm kind of looking forward to become a jw.

  i can of course tell ya'll my entire spiritual story, but that would take an entire bookwork.

  in a nuttshell: my father is an ex-jw, my half-sis (from an earlier marriage from my dads) is one of those "special pioneers", and i am jewish (my mom is jewish).

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  poppers

  "does anyone know of a better religion then the JW's, which give you both knowledge and love? If so I'd love to hear who, where and why!"
  
  The track record of religion promoting knowledge and love is not a good one - seems to me that religion does more to separate people from god and each other than anything in this world. Why limit yourself to religion in seeking these? From where does this assumption come that religion is the key?
  Isn't every religion conceptually based, and aren't concepts by their very nature limited? Have you looked for that within you which is prior to the conceptual? Perhaps what you are looking for will be found there. Rather than relying on something which by its very nature can only provide a set of ideas, why not explore what every idea arises in?
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  Poetry

  by stevenyc in

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  has anyone ever seen some of rummys poetry.. i was wondering which poem is most apt for the wt.. http://slate.msn.com/id/2081042/.

  steve.

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  poppers

  I thought you were referring to Rumi - now HE could write poetry! Check it out.
  
  http://www.allspirit.co.uk/rumi.html
  
  http://www.indranet.com/potpourri/poetry/rumi/rumi.html
  
  http://www.khamush.com/