The JWs don't believe in the "traditional" rapture that is "all christians" will simply disappear from the earth. So Cant leave I think you are mixing apples and oranges to make the JWs look bad. That is like saying just because Born Agains believe in the bodily reserrection of Jesus that they are like Mormons who believe God is a man of flesh and bone. Similarities in a doctrine does not make it belief in the doctrine. I wish ex-jws just tell the truth and not use "word" games to make a point. If the JWs are teaching falsehoods like them hang themselves. JWs have always that I am aware of taught that the "annoited" might still have some on earth after Armaggeddon to usher in the new world. They have speculated and have always said it is not "dogmatic" just their opinion. It is amazing how I read on this board how some ex-jws use a eye catching phrase to get the attention of posters but condemn JWs when they do the same thing.
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JW's now believe in The Rapture
by Oubliette injw's now believe in the rapture.
notice this curious doctrinal change in the controversial july 15th, 2013 watchtower: .
one of the events mentioned in these verses is the gathering of the chosen ones.
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Please clear up a confusion I have Do Christians believe that the AntiChrist will be Satan the Devil in human form?
by booker-t infor years i have been told different scenarios from different christian groups about who the antichrist will be.
some born agains have told me that the antichrist will be satan the devil stripped of all his powers and trapped in a human body on earth.
he will still have the same attitude and try to get people to worship him instead of jehovah and jesus.
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For years I have been told different scenarios from different Christian groups about who the AntiChrist will be. Some Born Agains have told me that the AntiChrist will be Satan the Devil stripped of all his powers and trapped in a human body on earth. He will still have the same attitude and try to get people to worship him instead of Jehovah and Jesus. People will fall victim and worship the Devil and be fooled by him. But if my memory serves me correct does not the Bible teaches us that Satan and the demons will be in the "abyss" for a 1000 years unable to do anything? And if Satan is a human being will he eat food, drink water, sleep, get ill just like all humans? Something does not make sense with this interpretation.
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Do you think Oprah is going to accept Paula Deen's apology?
by booker-t ini was wondering if oprah will accept paula deen's apology.
the two women go way back and oprah has even stayed at paula's home for the weekend and paula has been a guest on oprah's tv show.
i wonder if oprah will cut all ties with paula or will she forgive and forget.
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I was wondering if Oprah will accept Paula Deen's apology. The two women go way back and Oprah has even stayed at Paula's home for the weekend and Paula has been a guest on Oprah's tv show. I wonder if Oprah will cut all ties with Paula or will she forgive and forget. I know it must hurt Oprah that a person she considered a good friend could have racist beliefs about black people all the while smiling in Oprah's face.
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I am so proud of Wendy Williams for calling Paula Deen to the carpet for her racist remarks
by booker-t ini was cheering wendy williams on when i saw her on et calling paula deen to the carpet for her use of racial slurs.
i use to work for a woman that reminds me of paula deen.
she was s caucasian woman her mid 60s and she was raised in georgia and she constantly would make racial jokes and do racial jestures in front of me.
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ShirleyW. that is so true. I remember watching a program that had the KKK on its panel. And one of the Klansmen was an attorney and he said "I will help a black man as a client but I would never invite a black person into my house". So some white people will only associate with a black person as long as it is business and not personal. I am glad this Paula Deen scandal came to light because many black people I know thinks racism is dead and buried and that is far from the truth. Many white people cannot outright be racist for fear or losing their jobs or being sued in court but the closet racism still exist.
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I am so proud of Wendy Williams for calling Paula Deen to the carpet for her racist remarks
by booker-t ini was cheering wendy williams on when i saw her on et calling paula deen to the carpet for her use of racial slurs.
i use to work for a woman that reminds me of paula deen.
she was s caucasian woman her mid 60s and she was raised in georgia and she constantly would make racial jokes and do racial jestures in front of me.
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I was cheering Wendy Williams on when I saw her on ET calling Paula Deen to the carpet for her use of racial slurs. I use to work for a woman that reminds me of Paula Deen. She was s Caucasian woman her mid 60s and she was raised in Georgia and she constantly would make racial jokes and do racial jestures in front of me. My boss "Ms Barbara" would see an Asian employee walk by and slant her eyes and burst out laughing. She one day told me "booker why are black women so loose they will sleep with any man in a pair of pants" I could not believe she was saying this to me in the year 1992 and I was in my late 20s and a black man. I went home very upset but tried to explain away my supervisors comments. I did not want to make any waves back then I was new on the job and I was her administrative assistant. I would reason in my head she could not be a "racist" and have a black man as an assistant. After 3 years of these racist comments and jokes I had had enough. But before I could write her up an Asian and a black employee wrote her up for racism. She came out of the company trial crying like a baby apologizing left and right. She actually had the nerve to say to me after her trial "booker I am not a racist my boyfriend is Mexican. Fast foward to 2013 I am now 50 years old and I would not tolerate any kind of racial jokes, jestures or comments from white or black or Hispanic or Asian people. People need to be treated with dignity and respect and I try to teach my young nieces and nephews this principle. Since I am close to getting my Psychology/Therapist Masters degree I now realize some racist people are in so much denial about their racism. Everybody can slip and make a mistake but to continue making the same mistake over and over again then it becomes plain and simple you are a "racist". So Paula Deen needs to admit she is a "racist" and accept it and try to change.
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Do you believe Jehovah enjoys watching people suffer and why would you want to worship him?
by booker-t ini have to admit i never really thought about this question until one of my classmates challenged me with this very question.
she made an excellant point and i have to admit i am asking myself the same question does jehovah enjoy watching people suffer.
the case she brought up was the flood story.
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I have to admit I never really thought about this question until one of my classmates challenged me with this very question. She made an excellant point and I have to admit I am asking myself the same question does Jehovah enjoy watching people suffer. The case she brought up was the flood story. There probably were maybe a million people back then on the earth maybe half of them were "babies" and Jehovah had to have felt something watching those babies drown a slow and horrible death. I don't care what religion you want to believe JWs, Born Agains, Mormons, Islam, Muslam, etc; How could a God of love watch thousands and thousands of babies drown and die a horrible death? I could not watch my worst enemy suffer or drown let alone an innocent baby. Posters what are your thoughts on this question and please no "Watchtower" bashing this question has nothing to do with JWs or Born Agains but with Almighty God. I know many people have said Jehovah God has a "split" personality.
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Prodigal Son DVD, Seen it? Totally Unrealistic to me. You?
by Wasanelder Once inhere's the basic rundown:.
ok so little jw (21 going on 15) decides to get a job with a computer firm.
leaves family construction company to do so.
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Wasalender-Once I totally agree with you on the point "JW" girls might do the same thing as far as sleeping with a guy they first meet. I realized before I left JWs that they "brainwash" you to believe that JWs are "perfect" and little angels. When I left I saw things so clearly and I realized JWs are just as bad as the rest of the world. They elevate themselves above the rest of the world and try to instill in JWs that the world is dirty, sinful, and full of degenarates. I totally bought into that as a JWs. I remember when I first left the JWs I went to college and one of my classmates was a JWs pioneer young woman. She was very pretty and obviously very sexual. She would talk with non-jws classmates of ours about men, men, and more men. She always wanted her friends to "hook" her up with this guy or that guy. One day I decided to knock her off her pedistal and asked her what Kingdom Hall she went to. She asked me why did I want to know and I told her I was going to report her to her elders for "conduct unbecoming of a Christian" she almost turned blue from the shock that maybe another JW was in the room and could report her. JWs act totally different when they think there is no other JWs in the room but when they know a JWs is in the room they act on their "best" behavior. She dropped out of our class and I never saw her again. I was so glad she dropped because I just cannot stand a phoney JWs.
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my evangelical christian co-worker is extremely "racist" towards Hispanics
by booker-t ini am getting so tired of my co-worker who is a "evangelical christian" constantly making racist slurs towards hispanic people.
i just don't get it and it is making me very uncomfortable because i wonder what he says about "black" people behind my back.
everyday he makes comments such as "mexicans" are dumb and stupid, "mexicans all can't speak good english", "mexicans have 50 million babies" and "mexicans are all on welfare".
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I am getting so tired of my co-worker who is a "evangelical christian" constantly making racist slurs towards Hispanic people. I just don't get it and it is making me very uncomfortable because I wonder what he says about "black" people behind my back. Everyday he makes comments such as "Mexicans" are dumb and stupid, "Mexicans all can't speak good English", "Mexicans have 50 million babies" and "Mexicans are all on welfare". At first I just thought maybe he was joking but it has been 2 years now and he is getting worse. I get mad and I am not Hispanic but I work around alot of Hispanics and there is no problem. I just don't know what is wrong with my co-worker. The funny thing about it is he is Hispanic and he feels this gives him a liscense to bad mouth Latino people. The other day he talked so bad about Hispanics saying "All those Mexicans worshipping the Pope and child abusers in the Catholic Church" I am at a lost on how to handle this situation. Since I am not Hispanic should I just keep my mouth shut or should I complain to the supervisor? He brings his bible everyday to work and is always talking about church.
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The JWs slipped up again with the same Alpha and Omega error from 1978
by booker-t inthe saying people will make the same mistake over and over again is so true.
in the "revelation grand climax at hand" the revised one 2006 the wt again makes the same error and attributes the words at rev 22:12 to jehovah on pgs 306 and to jesus on the last page 319. you would think they would have learned their lesson from the 1978 wt blunder.
they almost use the same wording discussing the suddeness of jesus coming and jesus encourages his followers of his sudden coming and they list 5 scriptures and say jesus spoke them and one of the verses is (rev 22:12).
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The saying people will make the same mistake over and over again is so true. In the "Revelation Grand Climax at Hand" the revised one 2006 the WT again makes the same error and attributes the words at Rev 22:12 to Jehovah on pgs 306 and to Jesus on the last page 319. You would think they would have learned their lesson from the 1978 Wt blunder. They almost use the same wording discussing the suddeness of Jesus coming and Jesus encourages his followers of his sudden coming and they list 5 scriptures and say Jesus spoke them and one of the verses is (Rev 22:12). But just a few pages earlier inthe same book they say Jehovah speaks at Rev 22:12-15. Why can't they just get it right. Maybe they should just say Jesus and Jehovah are both the Alpha and Omega but Jehovah gave Jesus his title and is greater then Jesus. At least this way they can have no problem in identifying Jesus with the Alpha and Omega.
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I was reading an "old" Watchtower mag and the "overlapping" generation was hinted at with President Knorr from a QFR
by booker-t ini was flipping through an old volume of the wt mag from 1952 and a qfr was asked about "this generation" from matthew and the author actually mentioned "overlapping" generations.
i was surprised but it dawned on me that pres knorr toyed with this explaination 60 yrs ago so the new light is really partially "old light" from the 50s.
the sept 1 1952 qfr ask "your publications point out that the battle of armaggeddon will come in this generation and that this generation began ad 1914, scriptually, how long is a generation?
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I was flipping through an old volume of the wt mag from 1952 and a QFR was asked about "this generation" from Matthew and the author actually mentioned "overlapping" generations. I was surprised but it dawned on me that Pres Knorr toyed with this explaination 60 yrs ago so the new light is really partially "old light" from the 50s. The Sept 1 1952 QFR ask "Your publications point out that the battle of armaggeddon will come in this generation and that this generation began AD 1914, Scriptually, how long is a generation?" "Three or even four generations may be living at the same time, their lives "overlapping".(Ps 78:4; 145:4). So Pres Knorr probably worried back then times was running out and maybe he toyed with the overlapping generation theory to buy more time. But instead shifted the concern on 1975 and the overlapping theory got put on the back burner until 2010.