Lol @get off my lawn guy. Lots of musicians get famous without flashing their kootch. There is more variety today than ever, a great time for music. You sound like the dubs carrying on about how awful life is today by focusing on something they don't like to support a narrow view.
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AGREE? or DISAGREE? Popular Music
by Terry inhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ip0wuwjbdmi.
"from 1955 till present, popular music has declined to the point where it is now consistently "stupid" and homogenous.
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Embellished assembly interviews/"experiences"
by ab.ortega inoh how wonderful those experiences at assemblies and "schools" are - not.
at times it seemed as if these "experiences" were scripted.
the speaker gets criteria in the outline regarding what the experience or interview has to be about.
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Both my wife and I were on various interview parts when we were young. Both of us were pressured to embellish so as to make things more "encouraging". Standing in front of people kind of knowing that you're lying to them or yourself is tough. I remember seeing another reenactment that was fabricated. My mom once called me very distraught after watching my dad lie up there. It happens all the time. -
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Got a call, my dad is in hospice...
by dubstepped inour last conversation was him yelling at me because i "loved the gays".
translation, i pointed out that nobody chooses their sexuality.
i've been shunned since daing last september, and really for a year or so after visiting my df'ed brother.
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Update:
My dad died on Monday. I'm honestly not that shaken by it and I think people are put off by that. I said my goodbyes last year when I DA'D in my goodbye letter to my family. I had closure. I think the biggest place I struggled was in being pulled in from shunning, thrust back into the family dynamic, only to have it disappear again. It's a mind-fuck.
I had told my my dad that I might come back and decided against it because we ended things so well. So I texted my mom to let her know to which I was told that it wasn't expected that I would come back anyway and that it was a one time act of mercy. That didn't feel great.
I was called when he died. I've done my best to just let my mom talk when she has me on the phone. I'm there for her as much as I can be, but this is clearly just a business transaction that will be wrapped up shortly.
I found out from a relative on Facebook that his memorial would be on Sunday. Mom never told me about it. She did, however, call me to let me know that obviouyi wouldn't be there, but would it be okay to use my name as one of his sons in the talk. Would it be okay to use my name in the KH. I said of course, as last I checked I was one of his sons.
So, my biggest upheaval isn't over his death. To be blunt I hated him as a kid and once got up in the middle of the night and grabbed a knife to kill him in his sleep. He was very emotionally abusive. I wanted him dead. But over the years I tried hard to repair our relationship and spent the past several years taking him to ballgames, out to eat, fishing, etc. I saw a different size of him then that I enjoyed up until him yelling at me in our conversation about "the gays".
My upheaval is just over the drama surrounding the way I'm disregarded in parts of this as an ongoing thing. It's just all messed up. It hurts, or is confusing, or something. I can't quite put my finger on it but I feel something.
I've had a camping trip planned with friends this weekend for months. While my entire family is at his memorial, I'll be out enjoying nature. It feels wrong on a level, but I know that I don't want to be at his memorial anyway. I hate the elders at that KH and have bad history with them. To walk in and be shunned will draw all attention to me. The talk will be given by people that had no clue who he really was. I'm avoiding potential danger because I could be provoked by two specific elder's to take their heads off. So my weekend plans couldn't be better for me.
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I have tried really hard to be worldly, for ten years, tried to get worldly friends, and get back with family.
by Sledracer ini am so bad at being worldly, it's not like i gave it a good try, we are just not good at it my husband and i, i see him light up as he has started to read the bible again.
i'm good at being a witness, i am accepted, and hold the same beliefs, i have tried to find somewhere else, if there is a place, why hav'n't jehovah and the angels directed me to it?
thank you for all the loving posts, some of them have been just what i needed.
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Sounds to me like you've never figured out who you are apart from a set of religious beliefs. You're so identified with that set of beliefs that even after all these years you're using their vernacular. Spend time reading books that help open your mind to new perspectives if you haven't already. Work on being the best you that you can be. I've found being "worldly" so much easier than being a JW. People aren't expecting me to fit into their mold, they are interested in who I am and vice versa. They don't like me simply because I'm a good JW, they like me because I'm a good person. -
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Help messy problem
by poopie inthe problem is i have a baptized witness going out on service door to door giveing comments at kh who for the last 4 years has had sex with at least 10 prostitutes and regularly takes drugs ie speed the cong has no idea he's doing this he says he will never go to elders for fear his family will shun him if df so he continues i know because he tells me everything should i tell the elders or not.
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Aren't you the guy that whines about shunning in every thread you start? Now you want to contribute to someone getting shunned? I'm starting to believe that poopie isn't for real, and my faith is shattered. -
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jws deny shunning, yet lie to not look bad
by Ghiagirl ini recently decided to take matters into my own hands with my husbands family who have nothing to do with us.
his mom has seen my son twice since he has been born and his dad has never met him.
his family will pop in every few months, on top of that like in my last post ask for for money.
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Got a call, my dad is in hospice...
by dubstepped inour last conversation was him yelling at me because i "loved the gays".
translation, i pointed out that nobody chooses their sexuality.
i've been shunned since daing last september, and really for a year or so after visiting my df'ed brother.
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I like that idea JWdaughter. In the end, my relationship with both of my parents was strained since I was a child. Lots of emotional abuse and then, of course, religious abuse. I have good memories but revisiting them brings up lots of pain too. I agree though that for healthy families such a non-JW memorial is a great idea. We were so isolated from any other family that there really wouldn't be many non-JWs to share memories with. I love the idea for better circumstances though. -
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Got a call, my dad is in hospice...
by dubstepped inour last conversation was him yelling at me because i "loved the gays".
translation, i pointed out that nobody chooses their sexuality.
i've been shunned since daing last september, and really for a year or so after visiting my df'ed brother.
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Thanks my fellow aposta-peeps. It's such a messed up situation. My brother has been shunned for 13-15 years? and I let him know what was going on. He'd have to fly in if he was to come, and he's so torn about it all.
I do know one thing. No way would I go to a memorial service at a KH for him. My saying goodbye today was the end of the road. My brother won't go to a JW memorial either. There are certain brothers at my parents' congregation that would leave on stretchers if they were their snarky selves to me, and I couldn't stand to listen to their marketing pitch under the guise of being about my dead dad.
It was nice to be included. I respect my mom wholeheartedly for her handling of this. She tried to forbid brothers from stopping by to make sure that what energy dad had left went to his family. Of course, some brothers came anyway because they have no boundaries. But mom has always been her own person. She'll either wake up through this experience or she'll hold on even tighter to her dubdom.
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Got a call, my dad is in hospice...
by dubstepped inour last conversation was him yelling at me because i "loved the gays".
translation, i pointed out that nobody chooses their sexuality.
i've been shunned since daing last september, and really for a year or so after visiting my df'ed brother.
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Our last conversation was him yelling at me because I "loved the gays". Translation, I pointed out that nobody chooses their sexuality. Anyway. I've been shunned since DAing last September, and really for a year or so after visiting my DF'ed brother.
So I get a call this morning from mom that he's in hospice, and one last chance to see him. I made sure that he actually wanted to see me. Anyway, we went and it was nice. My mom told me it would go however I wanted. She ran off other JWs and may have lost a friend over it, just so we could see him. The conversations went well, and I said goodbye and that I loved him for the first time I can remember. Everyone should die with dignity.
Anyway, the real point of this is to point out how absurd shunning is, something I pointed out to my mom. So we can come today, and whenever we want until he passes, and hang out and laugh, and even have hospic workers comment on the love on the room, but once he dies we're effectively dead too. How insanely freaking stupid is that. I made sure to point out that it was hard to get called in from shunning to pitch relief in the bottom of the 9th. It's crazy how they turn relationships on and off at will.
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The danger of thinking we know everything.
by stuckinarut2 ina thought occurred that there is a danger in thinking we know everything, or have it all figured out in life.
especially when it comes to matters of doctrine or faith.. witnesses (or at least the society as a whole) are so self-confident, so proud to be the only ones who know "the truth" about everything to do with the universe, the earth, our past and our future, that pride kicks in.
and pride is dangerous...(.and before a fall).
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Run with those that search for truth, and run like hell from those who claim to have found it. - I don't remember where I heard that quote, but I love it. The more I know, the more I realize I don't know. I'd rather be humble and hungry than arrogant and satisfied like I used to be as a JW.