Hi Silenlambs,
All that you have said here regarding the testimony is so accurate in comparison to the trial we went through against my father-in-law. Even though throughout the trial, the judge refered to him as a predator, pedophile and assault and batterer when addressing the lawyers, and with all the testimony even that given by the pedophile himself, his J W family members and friends continued to deny his guilt, and elders refused to testify because the elder compared himself quoting that he was like a "bishop" or a "priest". When the lawyer questioned him about his own drug and sexual history before becoming an elder, the elder jokingly compared himself to President Clinton. That is in the court transcripts. In other words, so what if he did sold drugs, and was sexually promiscuous, he justified it by saying Clinton did too, before he became president. This was the Presiding Overseer. I would also love to put the transcripts of his lies from his depostion, and court testimony, but am not sure if I should right now because we have been notified about the Appeal. We have a date coming soon.
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Erica's 98 Sentencing Hearing
by silentlambs inbelow are listed quotes form the 1998 sentencing hearing for manuel beliz, the man who molested erica.. do you see any similarity between this and the berry sentencing?
why are jehovahs witnesses so keen to have convicted child molesters keep their children?
also unique in this hearing brother beliz asks to speak.
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"SPECIAL CARDS" To see GB Go to Heaven
by ARoarer ini think the special cards are going to be passes for congregations who are run by pedophiles and thier families to watch the gb pass out the kool-ade to the "glorious ones" taking the lead over thier respective congregations.
then, after they "fall asleep" in death, the "glorious ones" (elders, not angels silly) will have "new light" given them about how they must drink the kool-ade too, so they can "fall asleep " too, but be raised within a "twinkling of an eye" to greet the ones who already "fell asleep in death" at the special meeting of oct 7. then after the gb dispenses this "new light" at the proper time to the glorious ones, they will announce to the rest of the r&f that they will be drinking the kool-ade too, so that they too can "die faithful" and go directly to heaven to rule as "kings and priests".
they will also invite dateline to come and film their faithful act before all opposers, and announce the "new light" to the rest of the congregations who were not invited to the special meeting.
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I think the special cards are going to be passes for congregations who are run by Pedophiles and thier families to watch the GB pass out the KOOL-ADE to the "glorious ones" taking the lead over thier respective congregations. Then, after they "fall asleep" in death, the "glorious ones" (elders, not angels silly) will have "new light" given them about how they must drink the Kool-Ade too, so they can "fall asleep " too, but be raised within a "twinkling of an eye" to greet the ones who already "fell asleep in death" at the Special Meeting of Oct 7. Then after the GB dispenses this "new light" at the proper time to the glorious ones, they will announce to the rest of the R&F that they will be drinking the Kool-Ade too, so that they too can "die faithful" and go directly to Heaven to rule as "kings and Priests". They will also invite Dateline to come and film their faithful act before all opposers, and announce the "new light" to the rest of the congregations who were not invited to the special meeting. They will include in the "new light" special direction to the "gloious ones" (elders, not angels, silly), to announce at the KM meeting that all members in good standing will recieve everlasting life by remaining in "good standing" with Jehovah and his earthly Organization, by ending the "preaching and disciple making" and beginning a "new command", Destroy the wicked, anyone who is not am member in good standing and attending meetings regularly, and all others who are not a member of the the local congregations. This will usher in the "great tribulation" and all opposers will turn on them for murdering the wicked, but to continue even in the "face of death" until this work comes to completion as Jehovah "sees fit", then they too must direct the congregations to drink the Kool-Ade and all meet up in the New World, to be given special instructions by those ruling as Kings and Priests in Heaven for a thousand years. "New Scrolls" will be opened regarding anyone who becomes apostate at that time. Yes friends, this is what the "Special Meeting" is about. I can't believe non of you could figure it out!
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Mothers Rules for Everlasting Life
by Stacey injust a little something that i wrote for a writing class that i was taking last year.
and really, they are not my rules.
therefore we must follow what the organization says and not celebrate our birthday.
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Hi Stacey, your description of what it is like for a child growing up in the organization makes me feel so sad that I echoed those messages to my older children. They are grown now and we all no longer attend meetings because we see that this is not the "truth". But it hurts that those negative messages were instilled by the parents who thought we were doing what god wanted us to do. Thank goodness our youngest who is starting H.S. has not been enslaved by such negative thinking. Although I and my husband were lenient with our children and not by the book witness parents, I still feel saddened that I as a parent, a mother, expected my children to live such rigid and narrow minded ways.
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Ritzville News /Deepthroat
by silentlambs intri-city herald.
by shirley wentworth.
ritzville - erica rodriguez and her mother, alejandra garza, broke down and cried when the verdict came in.. it took slightly less than four hours for a seven-man, five-woman adams county superior court jury to declare manuel beliz, 48, of othello guilty of two counts of first-degree child rape and two counts of first-degree child molestation.
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Hi all, I have just gotten back onto my computer tonight after 8 days in the Bahama's, and am just reading a lot of the skuttlebut about Barb Anderson. I am so happy to hear all this. I know Barbara and met with her and Bill last winter in NYC to discuss the future pieces they wanted to do regarding exposing the Watchtower Society. Back then it seemed to good to be true. But the reality of all of this is coming along nicely. It is mind bogling the kowledge she has about the Dark Tower. I am just so happy it is coming out. Thier lawlessness is getting reaveled. You go Barb.
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Watchtower Study - July 29
by hippikon indo not become forgetful hearers .
unlike the israelites in the wilderness, je-hovahs people today enjoy gods approval.
they have become forgetful hearers.
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Hi everyone, it sounds to me like the Watchtower Society has become the "Forgetful Hearers" and made itself into an image like the "golden calf" for the members to bow down and worship. Of course they would never apply their words to themselves. Has anyone heard about the latest article in the Kingdom Ministry about not listening to negative media coverage about the Watchtower?? I am just curious about what it says because I think it is a reaction to the bad publicity that the Watchtower is recieving.
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When is THE Dateline due to air?
by Bridgette inbreif hx: i grew up in the "truth".
completely out for over two glorious years.
for the most part, i keep busy getting on with and the most out of life.
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I agree with you Julien, I think the Watchtower is already priming the congregations not to watch Dateline because I've heard that the latest Kingdom Ministry has already addressed the issue of negative publicity against them. It is their latest spin to control the members, and make it look as though they are "the only true religion following in Christ's footsteps". I do hope however that the investigation by Dateline will have more of an impact than what MadApostate is expecting.
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Disfellowshiping and shunning
by Liquidizer inthe problem is not the disfellowshipping itself but the shunning most of us don't accept.
i'm not so much against the disfellowshipping but shunning because it doesn't help anybody to repent some possible gross sin.
the situation is still more worse if you disagree with one or more of the wts teachings.
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The act of shunning in a DF/DA is an act that is dependent on a triangle between the ones involved. First there is the Perpetrator, the Watchtower Society. It perpetrates this rule of shunning through threats of punishment, and destruction. The Watchtower Organization, the Perpetrator, needs a Victim to carry out this act. The victim is the "shunnee" or the one to be punished and threatened with death and destruction. The Victim Shunnee plays that the Perpetrator wants the victim to play in order to wield the Power and control of a true Perpetrator. The Enablers are the Elders and the Congregation of members and even the Victim Shunnee who plays the role the Watchtower designates to them. In the instance of Pedophilia, the Pedophile cannot continue to molest if their Victims speak out and expose them and their disgusting form of power and control, but also expose the Enablers who support and protect the Pedophile. In other words without victims, and enablers Pedophiles are defeated. Likewise with the Perpetrating Watchtower Society. Without victims to be shunned by thier families and congregation, and without supporting elders who enable the Perpetrator, even though it is also vicimizing them and the congregation as well, their would be no such thing as shunning resulting from the act of getting excomunicated or disassociating oneself. Ohter religions practice excommunication, but they are not vicimized by it by the religious community viewing them as invisible or dead. The act of shunning is a definite form of perpetrating passive aggresion. It is definitely a form of power that is unscriptural, and based on total enforced participation.
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Dateline Program - WHEN?
by troubled injust wondering if anybody knows when the dateline program will air.
any set date yet?
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Uh Oh God Rules, did Kent hit a nerve with you. Are you a Jehovah Witness??? I thought you weren't allowed to curse. I guess it is ok if someone makes you mad enough by hitting you between the eyes with the real truth. Slander is lies. Everything said so far with the exception of yourself, is true fact. Are you a Pedophile GR?? The one's I have met believe thier victims are apostate, and so do the elders who support them. No, GR, the truth is, it is the ones you stick up for that are the term in which you so eloquently describe.
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Ritsfield Victory!
by silentlambs inhello everyone,.
i am bill's wife.he just called me from washington and told me to let you all know that erica won her case today!.
that sick child molesting bastard is in jail now as we speak.. his sentencing is set for september 24th i think.. one down many more to go.. thanks to all who have supported this cause.. sheila
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Wonderful, Wonderful news!!! And Dateline was there to cover it all. Well Watchtower, you are being put on notice. Wasn't that your line to "Christendom"?
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Paul Berry Found Guilty!!!!!!!!!!
by ARoarer inyessss!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
he was taken away in handcuffs, and dateline got the whole thing.
watchtower is tarnished.
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Yessss!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! He was taken away in handcuffs, and Dateline got the whole thing. Watchtower is Tarnished.