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  Is the Watchtower behind this "unbiased" website?

  by SeymourButts in

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  2. bible

  i just happened to stumble across this website while doing some research.

  although it claims to not be biased toward any religous denomination, it has a decidedly watchtower slant to all of its bible translations and subject commentaries.

  it completely supports 607bc and even claims that only 144,000 will be going to heaven.

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  zugzwang

  The footnote at the bottom of the page of the second link you listed makes it clear that this is not a website set up directly by the WTS.

  One of our advisers sent this note: ‘I would remove the argument about the timing of Daniel's exile, 3 years of training and then interpreting a dream in the second year of Nebuchadnezzar. Those who make this argument are not taking into consideration the calculation of regnal years/ascension years for Babylonian kings. By the facts, this is entirely possible, hence it is not an argument against secular history's timeline.’

  The WTS would never admit to having "advisers." This is likely a site set up by an individual JW who is using the evil internet in a non GB approved manner.
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  Wow, did it feel good.......................

  by BLISSISIGNORANCE in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  .................to be standing on the other side of the door on a saturday morning.. it happened today.

  i had gone to the markets early and when i got home i wandered across the road to my neighbour's house to have my hair coloured.

  she's a frustrated hairdresser and a friend.. as usual we chatted as she prepares the colour.

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  zugzwang

  Sister Pomp-ass:" Well, if you think it would be pleasing to Jehoopla, I'll ask the elders if I can!" Virgogirl

  "Jehoopla"

  That is halarious!!!! I laughed so hard soda shot out of my nose!
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  Generation Change

  by slugga in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i left the org slightly before the change in the "generation that was alive in 1914" thing was announced and wondered, what were peoples in the congregations reactions after this was announced and did it you notice people falling away because of it?

  has it had a damaging effect?

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  Sadly, my father, who was a Witness, died on September 1, 1995 just as this new light was coming out. He died as a result of not accepting a medically necessary blood transfusion. Of course I, being a pioneer and wanna be Bethelite, was more determined than ever to "defeat Satan." After all he had just killed my father, right? So when the new light came out I would have to admit that I missed the import and didn't fully understand what had just happened. To me it was a test that Jehovah was allowing to "sift" out the ones who were serving "with a date in mind." It wasn't until I actually "made it" to Bethel that I began to realize the total lack of anything that resembled Holy Spirit was there. And even after I left Bethel, I think the cognitive dissonance was still so great that I managed to go on "serving" for another 4 years, before finally my own crisis of conscience occured. So I spent 8 years in serious denial of what was going on in my own mind. Mostly because I wanted to believe what the WTS taught. Because if they were wrong that would mean that my father died for a lie and that I would never see him again. I guess some people are able to live with that disconnect from reality longer than I was able to. But I suspect the longer you live with it, and the more you have invested in it, the harder it is to break away.
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  Why do ex-JWs try so hard to uncover WTS dirt?

  by Lady Lee in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  far too many times i have heard the accusation that all x-jws want to do is tear down the wts.

  we scrounge around digging up every piece of information that we can that will put the wts in a bad light.

  "they" being those who seek to defend the wts and forget the past because ... well it is the past and there is so much "new light".

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  zugzwang

  I think we ex's are so efficient and effective at uncovering the flaws in the WTS because we were trained as Witnesses to uncover and point out the flaws in other religions. So it is only natural when we discover that the WTS is just a huge pile of lies that we would point that out. That is why the more "in" someone was (i.e. elder, Bethelite, CO, DO, GB member) the more "out" they become when the learn the truth about "the truth."
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  Fine new provision for research from the Governing Body

  by AlmostAtheist in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  (with apologies to the guy who had this idea first, and for watchtower-izing it).

  from: governing body, watch tower bible & tract society.

  to: all congregations.

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  zugzwang

  That's got to be the funniest thing I have read on this board ever. Thanks for the laugh. zugz
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  A Link for the Liberal Loudmouths

  by Shining One in

  1. social
  2. current

  http://news.yahoo.com/s/csm/20050902/cm_csm/ekatrina .

  read it and see that the pres actually was on the ball and had the machinery turned on and ready to operate.

  if a dummy like clinton (gore or kerry as well) had been in charge, who knows what would have happened!

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  zugzwang

  It never ceases to amaze me how a person can see thru the lies of the WTS but then can't see thru the lies of the Bush administration. Sorry shining one but you need to take a reality pill. The lies and corruption and deceit of the Bush administration makes the lies and corruption and deceit of the WTS look like small potatos. Don't lose your ability to see a liar just because you saw the WTS for what it was. It would seem like everyone who posted here would have the same loathing for the Bushshit that they have for the WTS. The WTS lied to us and so did the Bushshit administration. zugz
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  Comments You Will Not Hear At the 9-11-05 WT Study (Reward)

  by blondie in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  comments you will not hear at the 9-11-05 wt study (august 1, 2005 issue date).

  review comments will be in red.

  quotes from other sources will be in quotes boxes

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  zugzwang

  Great read Blondie. Although I must say that reading your comments about the article required me to read the article. I hadn't read a WT article in years. Sure seems different when I read it with my eyes open. zugz
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  144000 and counting

  by joelbear in

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  2. friends

  neo's thread on the neophyte gb members brought up a thought that i've had for a long time.

  the 144000 were supposed to be the first 144000 who became christians.

  peter baptized 3000 in one day in the first century.

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  zugzwang

  Watchtower is just like the Bush administration, they don't like dealing with facts.
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  We've lost an ex-JW from Missouri in Iraq

  by keeshah in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  he was from my congregation in missouri.

  i remember him well.

  he was 6 yrs younger than me.

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  zugzwang

  "What was he doing there in the first place? Sorry for your lost. But if you want to play you have to pay. Matt. 26:52 The military is not an organization that values life, they kill people. Regardless of why a person would join such an organization, education or what ever, it's still a killing machine. When you sign up, your saying you are willing to kill people and/or be killed. What a waste of life ... Acadian" How sad to go from one lie (Watchtower) to another. (Bush's illegal war.)
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  ANONYMOUS

  by tijkmo in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  did u ever write to the bethel anonymously..cos if you did or if you are thinking of doing this is how they view it.

  318-319 questions from readers ***.

  questions from readers.

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  zugzwang

  The real reason they won't respond to unsigned letters is because they want to know who it is that is questioning their teachings. If someone sends a letter and asks a question such as: "Why does the WTS say Babylon was destroyed in 607 BCE when all other sources say 587/586 BCE?" they want to know who asked that question so they can notify that person's elder's so they can get ready to disfellowship them. It's just another control tactic.

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