Posts by Fleur

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Should I teach my kids about Santa Claus? (Lie vs. Harmless Fantasy)

by AlmostAtheist in

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my wife and i got on a discussion about something i never would've guessed we'd need to.

she wants to teach our new baby about santa claus, easter bunny, & tooth fairy, but i don't.

of course, as witnesses we never would have taught that, and i have to acknowledge that i may only be reasoning using that old set of values.. i don't want to look into my kid's eyes and tell her something that i know for a fact isn't true.

Fleur

My parents never told me about the Santa Myth. Being raised JW, I came home from preschool one day laughing and said to my mom "You're never going to believe this. They told me at school there's some fat guy in a red suit who gives presents to all the kids in the whole world in one night."

Even at 3 I was a skeptic LOL.

We started celebrating when my daughter was turning 4. I told her that a lot of parents tell their kids about Santa as if he were real, but that Christmas presents really come from the hard work of people who love you. I also taught her that generosity is the best lesson in the Santa belief and that is a lesson everyone should learn; give all you can, and give often.

She still has plenty of magical thinking and belief in fairy tales without the Santa myth. I hope you guys can come to an agreement on this...one that you can both live with. Ah, the joys of parenting are many, varied and splendered LOL.

hugs

essie

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Demons and feathers

by Narkissos in

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brummie's thread about "unwritten prophecies" made me think more broadly about unwritten stuff among jws.

this one is not a prophecy, sounds more like a "urban legend".. there were stories circulating among french jws in the 70's about people suffering of some unexplained illness, until strange demonic "artworks" were discovered in the feathers of their pillows.

some were almost dying as the "work" was almost completed.

Fleur

never heard the feathers thing but heard all the rest ,smurfs, garage sales/vintage antiques, etc...all that rot.

I could retire if I still had all the stars wars collectables my mother made me pitch in my teens when she was sure there were demons in the house. She STILL thinks that my dad brings demons into the house (he's not spiritual enough for her liking) and actually has YHWH written on paper and taped over all her doorways and other weird s***.

But idols are wrong...LOL

"EUPHOBIA FEAR OF GOOD NEWS "THAT'S A STRANGE ONE.""

now, fear of THE "good news" I can understand...and the fear of semons. Definitely have that phobia bigtime.

love

essie

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Worth your time, please read.

by Fleur in

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sometimes it takes a child to cut through the beaurocratic nonsense and get to the heart of the matter.. http://cuddletheorphans.com/index.htm?sub=article&id=27.

hearing this child read her book...be prepared.

Fleur

You're so right, Ian, so much does have to be done. I'm not a prude either, and I get your point completely...the news tells us that we have to be careful and informed but the advertisers still go with "Sex sells"...

The thing that really gets to me is that a lot of people don't realize how much violence against women is contributing to the AIDS epidemic. That is something that needs to change, right now. The number of girls and women dying of AIDS is staggaring as are the number of children being left behind :(

hugs

essie

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Happy 26th anniversary, DANSK!!!!

by LDH in

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26 years is a long time to spend with your best friend, you two have really been though it for these past two years.. enjoy your celebration!!!!!

what did you get the missus?!?!?.

lisa

Fleur

May you have many more years together of happiness and joy. It truly is a blessing to have a wonderful marriage.

hugs to you and missus!

love,

essie

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Worth your time, please read.

by Fleur in

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friends

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sometimes it takes a child to cut through the beaurocratic nonsense and get to the heart of the matter.. http://cuddletheorphans.com/index.htm?sub=article&id=27.

hearing this child read her book...be prepared.

Fleur

Sometimes it takes a child to cut through the beaurocratic nonsense and get to the heart of the matter.

http://cuddletheorphans.com/index.htm?sub=article&id=27

Hearing this child read her book...be prepared. You will need tissues.

~essie

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MY MOTHER HAS DIED

by badboy in

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she died friday night and was buried yesterday.. i feel sad.

Fleur

Oh, I am so sorry.

One month ago today I lost my grandmother, who, emotionally, has always been my mother.

I am not sure where she is now. But I do know that in the last month the thing that has brought me the most comfort was when people told me that they could see some of the good things about her in me.

She lives on in me. Your mother's best qualities live on in you too, Badboy.

I hope that thought will bring you some comfort in your sorrow. I am sure that she loved you very, very much.

(((((((((((badboy)))))))))))

hugs,

esmeralda

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Another "Brother" Murders his family!!!

by ohiocowboy in

this is happening so often now, it is getting very sickening.

http://www.suntimes.com/output/news/cst-nws-harvey01.html.

family of three murdered in harvey .

Fleur

Oh the baby was so beautiful.

This monster killed his OWN mother too in this mess.

Completely senseless. Why the baby, why the baby???

*tears*

Yet another thing to make me believe that there cannot be a god who loves mankind.

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Another "Brother" Murders his family!!!

by ohiocowboy in

this is happening so often now, it is getting very sickening.

http://www.suntimes.com/output/news/cst-nws-harvey01.html.

family of three murdered in harvey .

Fleur

I can't help but think that maybe, just maybe this poor woman was encouraged by the elders to try to "work things out" with her spiritual head. I can't prove it of course, but all of us who were once JWs know exactly how that scenerio could have played out.

oh yes! I bet they did! They probably told her to "be a better wife and pray more" which is what they told ME.

And my family wonders why I did things exactly the way I did. They have no freaking clue.

This woman had gotten an apartment, sounds like she was trying to get her life together. It's just so sad...

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Another "Brother" Murders his family!!!

by ohiocowboy in

this is happening so often now, it is getting very sickening.

http://www.suntimes.com/output/news/cst-nws-harvey01.html.

family of three murdered in harvey .

Fleur

Not again :(

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Selling it at funerals too!

by wizedup in

my husband has an outline for a funeral talk from when he was an elder.

it instructs the speaker, "this talk should provide a fine witness concerning the truth, rather than unduly eulogizing the deceased.".

how's that for licking the plate clean?.

Fleur

Oh, Myself, I am so sorry to hear about your friend (((((((((hugs))))))))). Another Df/suicide...that makes my blood boil!!! I have some experience with this myself, so hearing about another one gets me riled up.

Sounds like they gave your friend the standard JW funeral. Pathetic. They turn everything into a freaking infomercial.

About the 'survived by' thing... I was surprised they included me in the number of grandchildren that my grandmother was survived by on the little handout from the memorial talk. But my mom was ticked that they were planning on shunning me at the funeral and she took the thing and made a notation: she crossed out the number and subtracted me, and also subtracted my child who was the only great-grandchild. She did it to be symbolic that if they weren't gonna talk to me, they can't put me in the count. I wonder if in the end she had the guts to hand it to my uncle like she said she wanted to. She said if they didn't have me they didn't get my kid. I thought that was pretty good thinking for a "loyal" dub.

Ready to listen to your rant whenever you're up to giving it (((((((myself)))))))

~essie