Yes Mazatlan is beautiful. Have you ever been to teacapan, a town outside the city? I went there before some time back. What area are you at now?
boy@crossroads
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Mazatlan is here wish you were beautiful!
by BrendaCloutier injust a quick postcard.
sorry, no pix.
got in late monday afternoon.
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X-JW , X-Mormon & More OR: Around the World's Religions in 60 Years!
by Rod P inhi people!
i am new here, but started out on the topic of "high rates of depression in org.
" there are 3 posts, one of which has been pasted below on my new thread.
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boy@crossroads
I like your sense of storytelling. I also am studying sociology. and i've thought about visiting the mormon church, not to join but just out of interest. It seems strange that after excommunication (a drop in your status) no-one would look at you differently. Maybe I just not used to that way of interacting (having been raised in the jws).
I like the part about using the mushroom as an umbrella. Seems like something out of a childs fable.
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mind games to free yourself of jw fear mentality
by boy@crossroads ini find that to get rid of the jw mentality i have to play mind games on myself as i go throughout my day.
one tactic that i've been using recently involves telling myself "now as i go through this (whatever) situation how would you act if you had never been exposed jehovahs witnesses".
it really is an amazing thing for me b/c after i think about the situation i really do become more comfortable and the true "me" comes out.
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I understand your concerns POs son. Your concerns about raising your child the best you can? So what is the best spiritual path to lead a child down? Do you raise them to question every little thing such as the witnesses (birthdays, xmas, caffeine -a mormon taboo). Or do you raise them with no concept of God at all?
As far as giving morals to your daughter, I've always observed that if you want children to be moral then the parent must set the example.
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mind games to free yourself of jw fear mentality
by boy@crossroads ini find that to get rid of the jw mentality i have to play mind games on myself as i go throughout my day.
one tactic that i've been using recently involves telling myself "now as i go through this (whatever) situation how would you act if you had never been exposed jehovahs witnesses".
it really is an amazing thing for me b/c after i think about the situation i really do become more comfortable and the true "me" comes out.
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boy@crossroads
I appreciate everybodies responses !
to almost atheist- while I know that their doctrines are bogus I haven't really sat down to research all of them. I take more of a "let your heart guide you" approach. I think once I totally get rid of Jw fear then I will go back to research just how wrong they are. But being in the early stages of the fade I'm just trying to establish fact from fantasy as regards the "world".
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mind games to free yourself of jw fear mentality
by boy@crossroads ini find that to get rid of the jw mentality i have to play mind games on myself as i go throughout my day.
one tactic that i've been using recently involves telling myself "now as i go through this (whatever) situation how would you act if you had never been exposed jehovahs witnesses".
it really is an amazing thing for me b/c after i think about the situation i really do become more comfortable and the true "me" comes out.
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boy@crossroads
I find that to get rid of the jw mentality I have to play mind games on myself as I go throughout my day. One tactic that I've been using recently involves telling myself "Now as I go through this (whatever) situation how would you act if you had never been exposed Jehovahs witnesses". it really is an amazing thing for me b/c after I think about the situation I really do become more comfortable and the true "me" comes out. I find that I become more sociable and approachable.
I've been doing my fade for about 6 or 7 months now. Up to this point I've been very careful about keeping a low profile as to my activities (e.g. attending other churches, opening myself up to outside association, reconnecting with old highschool associates). I've basically been living my life like Neo from Matrix and treating old witness associates like Agent Smiths. When I first started my fade I would just dissappear when I saw one but now I'm starting to just not give a shit. I have to continually tell myself (for example if i'm out with some old friends and if a witness sees me) that "I'm not doing anything wrong I'm just living my life. They are the ones that are wrong."
I've definitely come a long way since the last meeting I stepped foot in. Some of the things I still have an issue with are feeling comfortable around people smoking (theres always that little voice) and feeling comfortable in the midst of a large "worldly" crowd (I always feel like I shouldn't be there and that its a waste of time b/c we will all be destroyed). My head says "its all bullshit you know it" but my heart is just damn stubborn.
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jw meetings and obedience to the society
by boy@crossroads inin what ways does each of the jw meetings play a part in instilling obedience to the mother organization?
or maybe put another way, how does each weekly jw meeting contribute to the overall jw mindset?.
this thought came to me whilst drifting in and out of the watchtower study this morning.. ministry school: helps jws strengthen their speaking skills for better defending their beliefs.
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boy@crossroads
Great posts everybody.
"The reaction in the room was hilarious. Half of them were shocked because what I said made sense" . Yes, the witnesses aren't used to people not conforming. In the watchtower study past sunday, a new comer at the hall i was visiting gave a personal comment (which wasn't exactly in par with the watchtower study) and you could tell from the body language of most the witnesses that they didn't find his comment meritted any of their time and attention. IDIOTS !!
watchtower: whats the point of the watchtower study? I know the witnesses are "parrots" to what those at the top say. It's so funny the way the questions in the watchtowers are asked though. The writers try to make every watchtower that comes out some big revelation so therefore every question in the study article is phrased in the most sensational way possible. Asked "who was the messiah?", a watchtower would have it " who was this man that came down to earth to die for our sins?" SENSATIONAL
I know the Watchtower study like all the meetings are about control and obedience to the society but it's just funny that week after week the same damn thing is being said, "stick close to
watchtower societyJehovah and stay away fromrational thinkingSatan !" IDIOTS !! -
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jw meetings and obedience to the society
by boy@crossroads inin what ways does each of the jw meetings play a part in instilling obedience to the mother organization?
or maybe put another way, how does each weekly jw meeting contribute to the overall jw mindset?.
this thought came to me whilst drifting in and out of the watchtower study this morning.. ministry school: helps jws strengthen their speaking skills for better defending their beliefs.
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In what ways does each of the jw meetings play a part in instilling obedience to the mother organization? or maybe put another way, how does each weekly jw meeting contribute to the overall jw mindset?
This thought came to me whilst drifting in and out of the watchtower study this morning.
ministry school: helps jws strengthen their speaking skills for better defending their beliefs. the fact that this is a regular meeting and therefore of importance helps to reaffirm that at some point a witness will have to defend themselves. self-fulfilling prophecy
book study : to get to know your brothers and sisters more intimately. This is not altogether a bad idea, however it could be if one has a sudden change of beliefs. guilt trips, spying on close friends
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Would like to introduce myself
by jwNOT ini am so grateful to have found this site.
i got so excited reading everyones posts.
i was raised a jw up intil i was around 13 or so.
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boy@crossroads
I am sorry for what you have been through It's very hard trying to talk to people (jw friends, relatives) when you have doubts. It must be very difficult to have your family treat you this way.
I'm sure you fit right in !!!
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did you diassociate yourself?
by boy@crossroads ini had one of my brothers' witness associates drop me off somewhere earlier tonight.
he's from another congo.
and he knows i haven't been at a meeting in some time.
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boy@crossroads
By the way, i haven't dissasociated myself nor do i plan on it, I PLAN ON SIMPLY ERASING THEM FROM MY MEMORY.
At times though, i find it hard seeing through all the guilt that they instill in you and which creates somekind of invisible barrier in your mind. I find whats helps to some degree is to take yourself out of the situation mentally and then imagine how you would act had you never been exposed to the witnesses.
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did you diassociate yourself?
by boy@crossroads ini had one of my brothers' witness associates drop me off somewhere earlier tonight.
he's from another congo.
and he knows i haven't been at a meeting in some time.
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boy@crossroads
I had one of my brothers' witness associates drop me off somewhere earlier tonight. He's from another congo. and he knows I haven't been at a meeting in some time. Usually when I'm around him he just acts cool like nothings wrong with me. While we were driving he asks me, "did you dissassociate yourself or anything because i wonder if i should be talking to you?"
I mean lets get real, do you have to let the society tell you everything to do? I mean if you even have to ask that question to me, don't you think it's ok to talk to me.
I basically just told, "well you'll have to make that choice for yourself"