Would you approve of your significant other going (and enjoying) a strip club?
As an aside, do you know of any active dubs who go to strip clubs?
I know of and has seen several enjoying the festivities.
would you approve of your significant other going (and enjoying) a strip club?.
as an aside, do you know of any active dubs who go to strip clubs?.
i know of and has seen several enjoying the festivities.
Would you approve of your significant other going (and enjoying) a strip club?
As an aside, do you know of any active dubs who go to strip clubs?
I know of and has seen several enjoying the festivities.
you know all the myspace.com warnings that were on here about elders on a witch hunt searching for active jw's blogs and using them against them?
well the elders didn't search but an old aquaintenance did.
she was disfellowshipped for her blogs concerning all the casual sex she was having.
What a low thing to do?
I just goes to show that some of us even though we a out of the "truth" we still seek the approval for the elders or our loved ones.
You have the right attitude, view it as a "blessing in disguise."
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how many of you lived with your spouse before you got married and how do you think it effected the outcome of your marriage?.
for those not married would you live with someone before you agreed to marry them?
How many of you lived with your spouse before you got married and how do you think it effected the outcome of your marriage?
For those not married would you live with someone before you agreed to marry them?
i was`nt brought up in the `truth`.
i have recently left and am amazingly happy.. one thing that got to me was my mental state of mind which became extreemly negative about the future.. i worried very much about non jw relatives (good people) dying at armaggeddon.
also reading the endless accounts of bros/sis being brutally tortured/raped etc really disturbed me.
I too remeber being frightened by the pics in the Terrordise book.
Although I am glad I did, I began working out and trining myself to be physically fit, so that I could withstand the tortures of the Great Trib.
I Thought I could handle the torture for myself, but I knew I would break if my mom or girlfriend/wife was going to be raped.
I knew that either I would be killed or I would disown Jehovah.
i havent pulled too many pranks in my life, but i would love to!
the last one i pulled, was on my brother.
i cut a piece of limburger cheese the size and shape of a bar of soap, and put it in his shower.
I played this trick on a few people at work.
If you have a phone that the receiver unscrews, cover the mouthpiece with tape, and then wait for the phone to ring and watch the person trying to talk on a call where the other party can't hear their voice. This is really fun with "A" types.
the wts is currently growing at about 1.3 % which is similar to the global propulation growth rate.
if all the jw kids stayed as jws then the religion could grow as quickly as it is now without any door knocking.. if in 2005 1.2 billion hours witnessing resulted in the religion only growing at the rate it should be naturally it suggests a lot a kids are leaving, or doorknocking is not having very good results.. of about 100 people born into the wts that i can remember in my congregations in australia about 3/4 of them have left.
is that the same in your congregation?
I attended a congo in the shadow of Bklyn Bethel in the 70' and 80's.
At least 25% of the children of dub were out by the age of 18.
Those that stayed into their 20's and got married, at leat 70% of those left the "lie".
We were what I like to refer to as the lost generation. We were told the the end would come before we gradurated high school, we did not pursue a higher education in most cases so we worked marginal jobs with low pay and bad benefits, we got married too early, before we were mature enough to be comfortable with ourselves, much less comfortable with living and loving someone else. And most of us had children quickly that strained an already meager budget, thus heaping more pressure and problems on "children" ill prepared to deal with the harsh realities of life.
I know many members of the "lost generation" and many are very bitter about their experience as a dub.
i posted this in another thread but it is more relevant here.
i worked for jw doing back breaking work for a while only to be told by another jw that he was ripping me of - he was paying me half the going rate.
i was only 17 and naive didn't know anything about the world of work.
Not me but my parents.
The folks decided to redo their master batnroom and my mom insisted that my dad hire a elder in the hall whoe family really needed the work and money. Basically the work was substandard and completed over 6 weeks late.
My dad originally refused to make finally payment, but because of my mom's continued pressure on him, him eventually relented.
To this day, the bathroom is a sore subject in my parents house.
Something more infamous is the group of brothers that ripped off thousands of dubs on the east coast and in the south. It was an insurance third party adminstrator company that took insurance premiums made by the policy holders but never remitted the payment to the insurance companies. When the dubs made claims against their policies they found out the policies were cancelled for non payment of the premiums and the coverage was no longer in effect.
A law suit was filed in federal court to the tune of several millions of dollars on behalf of the policy holders.
This company was owned and managed by only dubs, and the board of directors was made up of several elders, ms and pioneers.
The president of the company was an asistant circuit overseer in the NY area.
Most were DFed or reproved, but since they spent almost all of the profits on million dollar homes and expensive cars, most of the monies will never be recouped by the policy holders.
This happened in the late 90's early 2000 and most of the criminals are back in good standing in their congos.
i had an interesting conversation the other day with a friend who is also an ex-jw.
this person is older than i am, and was a jw for a number of decades.
she was talking about worldly relatives that she basically ignored when she was a jw.
My Mom tried her damnest to keep a distance between me and my worldly relatives.
She also had a superiority complex, they were wicked and were going to be destroyed anyway.
I have to admit that I bought into this kind of thinking and even though I am closer to those relatives now, they are still feel hurt over being made to feel less than worthy by both me and my mom.
I've tried to make amends, but their resentment sometimes comes through.
I just try to love them for who they are and forgive, not only them, but myself.
ive been on two cruises in the early 90's with large amounts of witnesses.
one cruise we had around 85 and the other 175. one night on the larger jw cruise there were 50 or so of us watching this comedian.
he started getting a little crude using words like penis so we all got up at the same time and walked out during his act.
The last thing I need is to sleep with a witless wife.
Happy with what I have, ain't gonna happen.
i recieve many pms, emails, and more recently, many thread replies which ask me a simple question.. why are you disassociating yourself?
why not just fade?.
well, here's why.. my mother, and her mother, are in the "truth".
Good for you RR.
Wish I had the wisdom and courage to handle myself like you when I was 18.