Posts by pratt1

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Paternity Question

by pratt1 in

one of my clients who also happens to be close friend went mia for most of last week.

i called him a few times with out a response from him, so i assumed he was sick and would get back to me when he felt better.. i spoke with him this morning and he was very depressed, apparently his wife of 9 years admitted to him last week that their 6 year old son may not be his.. apparently she had an affair with a man about 7 years ago for 2 months.

he was traveling to the west coast every other week for business at the time, but he never had a clue.. he is upset and fuming mad.

pratt1

One of my clients who also happens to be close friend went MIA for most of last week. I called him a few times with out a response from him, so I assumed he was sick and would get back to me when he felt better.

I spoke with him this morning and he was very depressed, apparently his wife of 9 years admitted to him last week that their 6 year old son may not be his.

Apparently she had an affair with a man about 7 years ago for 2 months. He was traveling to the west coast every other week for business at the time, but he never had a clue.

He is upset and fuming mad. He is trying to decide if he wants to divorce, but whats worse he knows that he and his wife need to resolve the paternity question. He really loves his son and part of him doesn't want to know the answer.

He asked for my advice and I said, at this point I would just focus on the marriage issue, is it worth saving, can you ever trust her again, do you really love her. When you are calm and have thought every thing through, you can deal with the paternity issue. It s ben 6 years already, whats another couple of weeks or a month?

The real kicker here is that his wife is a Dub - a pioneer, and he is not. When he married her she was the baptized daughter of a pioneer and elder and the eloped after dating secretly for about 2 months. They are not kids, he's 42, she is 36 I think, but she lived with her parents at home until she married him.

He suspects the father is a married elder in the hall.

I have known him for 20 years, and I have always felt uneasy around his wife and her family.

I feel pretty sad for him and the son.

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Sharing Your new light with your Parents

by pratt1 in

every so often i get to share some of my thooughts about the borg and my new found beliefs with my mom , who is a die hard pioneer for over 20 years.. we actually have had decent conversations about doctrines and interpertations of the scriptures, and she has admitted that at times the borg may have misapplied certain scriptures over the years.. her excuse is that imperfect men sometimes make mistakes and jehovah makes allowances for this.. but what really gets her upset is when i bring up certain aspects of my childhood, that because of her belief in the borg, she made some unwise decisions for not only me be her family.. me getting baptized at 13, her not being fully supportive of higher education, cutting off family members, pushing me into an early marriage when i was clearly not ready, teaching me that all "worldly people', including my father woiuld die at armageddon, these are just a few examples that when we discuss them, she becomes extremely angry and then accuses me of making her out to be a bad mother.. i got me thinking, do you think that many dubs refuse to acknowledge the problems with their religion because it would mean that they made some really bad decsions in their and their families lives.. are they afraid to accept the responsiblity for this because of the guilt they would suffer?.

what are your thoughts?

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pratt1

Every so often I get to share some of my thooughts about the Borg and my new found beliefs with my Mom , who is a die hard pioneer for over 20 years.

We actually have had decent conversations about doctrines and interpertations of the scriptures, and she has admitted that at times the Borg may have misapplied certain scriptures over the years.

Her excuse is that imperfect men sometimes make mistakes and Jehovah makes allowances for this.

But what really gets her upset is when I bring up certain aspects of my childhood, that because of her belief in the Borg, she made some unwise decisions for not only me be her family.

Me getting baptized at 13, her not being fully supportive of higher education, cutting off family members, pushing me into an early marriage when I was clearly not ready, Teaching me that all "worldly people', including my father woiuld die at Armageddon, these are just a few examples that when we discuss them, she becomes extremely angry and then accuses me of making her out to be a bad mother.

I got me thinking, do you think that many dubs refuse to acknowledge the problems with their religion because it would mean that they made some really bad decsions in their and their families lives.

Are they afraid to accept the responsiblity for this because of the guilt they would suffer?

What are your thoughts?

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Told my JW mom

by Mrs Smith in

just wanted to let you all know about my phone call to my mom.

she was telling me how upset she is that all three of her kids no longer are active jw's.

i could no longer keep quite and i told her how upset am that she still is an active jw.

pratt1

Your conversation with your Mom sounds really promising.

Give her time and she may be open to hearing more of your thoughts.

After all, she didn't become a die hard dub in a day, it may take her awhile to see the light.

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Do you still call it "the truth"?

by True North in

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do you find youself still calling it "the truth" even though you are an ex-jw?

for instance, in one posting i just read, the poster wrote "when i was in the truth..." .

not a big deal, perhaps, but really not such a good thing either as it's a habitual holdover from the program of mental conditioning we were subject to.

pratt1

I slip up ever now and again, and it really bothers me when I do.

Mostly I refer to it as the religion or the Lie when I speak with other ex dubs.

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Would you risk your life?

by pratt1 in

innyc yesterday a man saved a strangers lfe by jumping on the train tracks and rolling both himself and the injured man under a small crawl space in the tracks.

fortunately both escaped harm but at least 2 train cars had rolled over them.. the man had fell on to the tracks after suffering a seizure.. what a heroic act of kindness.. would you have risked your life to save a stranger?.

is your answer the same answer you would have given if you were still in the borg?.

pratt1

InNYC yesterday a man saved a strangers lfe by jumping on the train tracks and rolling both himself and the injured man under a small crawl space in the tracks. Fortunately both escaped harm but at least 2 train cars had rolled over them.

The man had fell on to the tracks after suffering a seizure.

What a heroic act of kindness.

Would you have risked your life to save a stranger?

Is your answer the same answer you would have given if you were still in the borg?

If you want more details about this story, you can access it on the websites of the New York Daily news or the New york Post.

Sorry I don'tr know how to attach a link.

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Movie - The Good Shepard

by pratt1 in

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i just saw the good shepard and i am still trying to decide if i liked the movie or not.

it basically tells the story (i am sure somewhat fictionalized) the start of cia.. matt damon is really good in it, and so is alec baldwin.. i guess the main thing that i am struggling with is that the film makes it seems that to protect a society, you have to think like the enemy, commit heinous crimes like the enemy, to defeat the enemy.. i know its probably reality, but knowing this does not make you feel very good.. .

has anyone else seen this movie.. what are your thoughts?.

pratt1

Jourles, I know you are right, but it still amazes me.

There's a line in the movie where Joe Pesci's character asks "What do you people have (or contribute to the world)? to Matt Damon's character.

Joe goes on to say the Jews has Tradition, the Italians has their family, the Irish has their homeland, even the (N-word) has their music, what does you people have, (meaning WASPS) ?

Matt Damon answers, we have the United States. The rest of you are just visiting.

That just blew me away.

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Movie - The Good Shepard

by pratt1 in

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i just saw the good shepard and i am still trying to decide if i liked the movie or not.

it basically tells the story (i am sure somewhat fictionalized) the start of cia.. matt damon is really good in it, and so is alec baldwin.. i guess the main thing that i am struggling with is that the film makes it seems that to protect a society, you have to think like the enemy, commit heinous crimes like the enemy, to defeat the enemy.. i know its probably reality, but knowing this does not make you feel very good.. .

has anyone else seen this movie.. what are your thoughts?.

pratt1

I just saw The Good Shepard and I am still trying to decide if I liked the movie or not. It basically tells the story (I am sure somewhat fictionalized) the start of CIA.

Matt Damon is really good in it, and so is Alec Baldwin.

I guess the main thing that I am struggling with is that the film makes it seems that to protect a society, you have to think like the enemy, commit heinous crimes like the enemy, to defeat the enemy.

I know its probably reality, but knowing this does not make you feel very good.

Has anyone else seen this movie.

What are your thoughts?

I definitely need to see it again, because I'm sure I missed some key points.

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Name Some JW "Double Standards"

by minimus in

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here's one: you can't give blood but you can take a blood fraction (which someone else has to give).

pratt1

The dubs are told to shun their disfellowshipped children, but if they are in need of care or God forbid money, they are often told to try to get help from their family - Their disfellowshipped kids.

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Knocking on Doors on Holidays

by Medic!? in

did anyone else's congregation "strongly encourage" this practice?

when i was a worshiping rusell.... jehovah.

i felt sick to my stomach and disgusted that these people had absolutely no consideration for the beliefs or practices of others.

pratt1

I was always forced to go in field service on all holidays.

The worse was Christmas. Most people would open their doors and be friendly and if it was a school mate of mine, of course I was invited to see their gifts from Santa.

It was an humiliating experience for a child who would not have any presents waiting home for him to open.

I still have a hard time understanding how parents who profess to love their children would force them to participate in field service on holidays.

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Prince Thanks "Jehovah God" on BET Awards Tonight...

by owenfieldreams in

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just watched it about an hour ago.

i know that it's old news that he got involved with the organization while his career was basically in a free fall, but now that he is enjoying some success again, i am very surprised that he is still claiming to even be a jw.

pratt1

What I want to know is, did Prince get a scriptual divorce from his wjfe?

If so, who cheated?

Unless the normal rules don't apply to the rich.