Posts by Theocrat

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Does the Watchtower Society stunt personal development and growth

by truthseeker in

jw
friends

with so many "responsibilities" given to the witnesses by the "faithful and discreet slave", there is little time for them to do anything these days except sleep - and that is when they're not out preaching at unearthly hours in the morning.. .

the enormous pressure to perform, and to be under the watch of the elders to make sure you perform, is a draining experience.. .

a book i have on sociology says this regarding jehovah's witnesses, when discussing sects, that "they require intensive commitments and demonstrations of belief by members.

Theocrat

Nor do I think badly of you, truthseeker. You are of good nature. I also don't think badly of the dude with the Al Franken picture that talks down to me. Even though he talks down to me, I still look at him as he is doing what HE THINKS is right. Of course, like you said, we all have our own faith, but think about Ephesians 4:4 and the "one faith" that Christians have. Its unified because we all have faith in the same thing: God's heavenly Kingdom.

Just because each of us FEEL that our course is right, doesn't make it so. Because what we believe has no bearing on reality, and in the words of Proverbs 14:15, "even the fool is right in his own eyes".

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Does the Watchtower Society stunt personal development and growth

by truthseeker in

jw
friends

with so many "responsibilities" given to the witnesses by the "faithful and discreet slave", there is little time for them to do anything these days except sleep - and that is when they're not out preaching at unearthly hours in the morning.. .

the enormous pressure to perform, and to be under the watch of the elders to make sure you perform, is a draining experience.. .

a book i have on sociology says this regarding jehovah's witnesses, when discussing sects, that "they require intensive commitments and demonstrations of belief by members.

Theocrat

Bring what on? I really can't stand Al Franken.

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Does the Watchtower Society stunt personal development and growth

by truthseeker in

jw
friends

with so many "responsibilities" given to the witnesses by the "faithful and discreet slave", there is little time for them to do anything these days except sleep - and that is when they're not out preaching at unearthly hours in the morning.. .

the enormous pressure to perform, and to be under the watch of the elders to make sure you perform, is a draining experience.. .

a book i have on sociology says this regarding jehovah's witnesses, when discussing sects, that "they require intensive commitments and demonstrations of belief by members.

Theocrat

Big Tex I can't even begin to understand your plight, and really can't even begin to comment on it, seeing how I wasn't there and just don't know. All I can say is that is possible for evil MEN to make their way into God's congregation. Read the account of Diotrophes in 3rd John. Someone in your horrible dilema needs extra comfort, extra support. But don't worry about men such as that. Men like that always burn themselves out. Remember the Proverb: "the righteous may fall a dozen times, but he will get back up, but the wicked will stumble due to their calamity, yet they will be destroyed."

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Does the Watchtower Society stunt personal development and growth

by truthseeker in

jw
friends

with so many "responsibilities" given to the witnesses by the "faithful and discreet slave", there is little time for them to do anything these days except sleep - and that is when they're not out preaching at unearthly hours in the morning.. .

the enormous pressure to perform, and to be under the watch of the elders to make sure you perform, is a draining experience.. .

a book i have on sociology says this regarding jehovah's witnesses, when discussing sects, that "they require intensive commitments and demonstrations of belief by members.

Theocrat

truthseeker said: "I invite the audience to comment. Do the Witnesses quote Jesus illustration at the doors"

I do.

And concerning the things the Israelites had seen that moved them to obey....how is it different for a Christian who sees with "eyes of faith"?

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Does the Watchtower Society stunt personal development and growth

by truthseeker in

jw
friends

with so many "responsibilities" given to the witnesses by the "faithful and discreet slave", there is little time for them to do anything these days except sleep - and that is when they're not out preaching at unearthly hours in the morning.. .

the enormous pressure to perform, and to be under the watch of the elders to make sure you perform, is a draining experience.. .

a book i have on sociology says this regarding jehovah's witnesses, when discussing sects, that "they require intensive commitments and demonstrations of belief by members.

Theocrat

I used a #4 talk in the ministry just the other day. The topic of purgetory came up, and we had just discussed that topic a week or so earlier.

What is "mind-controlling" about Jesus' invitation: "come to me, all who are toiling and loaded down, and I will refresh you." Its nobody's benefit but their own to listen to that invitation. The TMS helps us to convey that message of Christ clearly with people, both in articulation, and "art of teaching". Nobody is getting rich on this work thats being done. If 1 or 1000 accept the good news of the Christ that we deliver, we will have been doing what is expected by God, nothing more.

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Does the Watchtower Society stunt personal development and growth

by truthseeker in

jw
friends

with so many "responsibilities" given to the witnesses by the "faithful and discreet slave", there is little time for them to do anything these days except sleep - and that is when they're not out preaching at unearthly hours in the morning.. .

the enormous pressure to perform, and to be under the watch of the elders to make sure you perform, is a draining experience.. .

a book i have on sociology says this regarding jehovah's witnesses, when discussing sects, that "they require intensive commitments and demonstrations of belief by members.

Theocrat

You're right. It is through the Scriptures that we find the will of God, but we also have to realize that a similar organizational arrangement has been employed by God since the Genesis of time. Some who left Egypt under Moses' direction balked at his leadership, just as many still balk today at a group of human servants that Jesus identified would lead His flock in the time of his prescense. But the things that Moses told the Israelites turned out to be for their own good.

How do you think the "rank and file" Israelite felt when Moses came off of Sinai saying, "okay I've put markers up there at the base of the mountain, and when we all go up there, nobody can cross the boundaries"? I'm sure some said, "look at this guy, acting like he's the boss of us." Little did they know that they would die if they went past the markers that God TOLD Moses to lay out.

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Does the Watchtower Society stunt personal development and growth

by truthseeker in

jw
friends

with so many "responsibilities" given to the witnesses by the "faithful and discreet slave", there is little time for them to do anything these days except sleep - and that is when they're not out preaching at unearthly hours in the morning.. .

the enormous pressure to perform, and to be under the watch of the elders to make sure you perform, is a draining experience.. .

a book i have on sociology says this regarding jehovah's witnesses, when discussing sects, that "they require intensive commitments and demonstrations of belief by members.

Theocrat

Like maybe the drummer in a Led Zepplin tribute band?????

Please say yes.

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What Made You Realize The WTBTS Was NOT The Truth

by Kevin in

jw
friends

my wife is a jw.. i've been trying to point out the errors of the wtbts but she just doesnt want to hear it.. i'm wonder if some people could share your turning point in regards to your relationship goes.

with the society.

what made you realize that the society was false.

Theocrat

What comes across to you that makes you think it is false, may I ask?

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Does the Watchtower Society stunt personal development and growth

by truthseeker in

jw
friends

with so many "responsibilities" given to the witnesses by the "faithful and discreet slave", there is little time for them to do anything these days except sleep - and that is when they're not out preaching at unearthly hours in the morning.. .

the enormous pressure to perform, and to be under the watch of the elders to make sure you perform, is a draining experience.. .

a book i have on sociology says this regarding jehovah's witnesses, when discussing sects, that "they require intensive commitments and demonstrations of belief by members.

Theocrat

When I am 60, and the end still hasn't come, I'll thank Jehovah that I'm still able to be a part of the most important work that the world has ever known. If it were God's will for me to be a businessman-ladder-climber who has his first heart attack at age 52, and then a pension, bag of old golf clubs, and a fat rear, then He wouldn't have sent His Son to earth to preach, He would have sent him to earth to invest in mud huts, and then diversify into adobe real estate.

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Watchtower an NGO for the UN

by ball. in

we all know the story of the watchtower's membership of the un.. here's a hypothetical situation.

you start studying to become a witness and they ask what you do.

you work for the un, say a researcher or something you can do in any town or city.

Theocrat

The prophet Daniel was given an extremely elevated position in the Babylonian government, although they were prophecied to collapse.