I was having a similar conversation with my Dad. He was going on and on about how active the demons are. How many things are demonized or "demon inspired".
I finally told him that him attributing everything to Satan and demons to be unhealthy. Then I told him he was borderline schizophrenic. He got mad. I don't understand why ;P.
Anyway, this paranoia with Satan and demons waaaay to prevelant in JWs.
eljefe
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Demonized Software...
by Agent 1 of 1 inhow does the society view software or media that seems to be from the devil?
if i'm watching a satanic ritual file downloaded from a web site, is that file demonized?
if the original file is possessed and gets duplicated, are all the other duplicated files possessed as well?
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aLCOHOLISM in the congregation
by badboy inwere there any alcoholistics in the congregation you attended?
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eljefe
Big problem in the congregations I've been, and even the one I attend now. BIG, BIG, BIG. Hispanics sure like their booze!
I have another story from the Hispanic congs. There was a bethelite that had just left bethel. He went to his friend's bachelor party. He got extremely drunk even around other brothers. He seemed like it something normal. In other words, he was doing it bethel. Now he's and elder and still drinks heavily. -
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If The Bible Is Truly The Word Of God...
by exjdub inwhy would he leave so many loose ends?
believe me, despite some of my comments about religion and my feelings about the bible, i do examine myself and my thinking process all of the time.
i really do think deeply about my life and the lives of my family, and i really try to examine how i feel.
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eljefe
If prophecy is there to help people see the "sign" of the time of the end, why is it so confusing and there is no clear interpretation? And how would you ever be able to verify a true prophet?
I think it was P.T. Barnum who said "people want to be fooled". By giving a vague propecy any outcome and application can be made. I make a significant parallel between psychics and many prophecies in the Bible. Both are vague and open to interpretation.
Just think of the prophesies about 607. You can't even pin down a good starting point for it. Rather there are multiple possible starting points. That way, you judge it based on algebra. Something happened on this day (1914) so something MUST have happened here (607,537). Or if something happened on this day, then something must have happened then and that proves the Bible right. -
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Where is the MONEY REALLY GOING? -- Special Assembly Days, etc
by EyeDrEvil ini have always wondered why it cost so much to "rent" the space used for local special assembly days and circuit assemblies.... in our case, the society built a large assembly hall, on donated farm land (= free), in the middle of some corn fields 20 miles outside of columbus, ohio... the property has a couple of apartments where some of the travelling overseers live, who help with the upkeep of the building.
cleaning the building was taken care of because of our "privilege" to go out the day before the assembly to get it in good shape (free housekeeping and maintenance work).. so, the society owns the building.
it was built on free land.
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eljefe
All of this is the way it was when I stepped down in 1995 here in the U.S. Your mileage may vary.
That's the way it was as of 2003 when I was still doing accounting at assemblies.
I might be wrong but it seems to me that they have NEVER declared a surplus at an assembly.
I told this story before on another thread but here it is again. I was at an assembly that actually had made a profit for all expenses on Saturday. The Assembly Overseer gets a run down of all expenses/contributions. He was in the accounting room and actually had the Accounting Overseer be "creative" and double check all expenses to make sure they weren't missing anything. Well, nothing was missing from the expenses. They ended up announcing that there was still a defecit.
Looking back on that experience reminds of how crooked and money hungry they are. Its weird they would benefit directly from that money, yet they wanted more. -
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Building a new computer
by dustyb inhey.
i'm building a new computer now, so if you guys want to suggest what i put in it, or else donate parts/money i'd be glad to accept.
right now this is what i'm thinkin about.
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eljefe
I highly recommend Lian Li cases. Here is one on NewEgg.com.
Since you are going to use a Radeon, you will need to disipate a lot of heat. Lian Li's have a lot of fans and do it well. -
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I Threw Out My NWT Today.... I am officially a cult free household.
by shamus indid you throw your trash out?
how long did you keep it?
stupidly, i felt awful about fading, and went through my huge collection of bound crap, making sure that my name was nowhere on the cult material, and dropped off three large boxes at the kingdumb hall one night.
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eljefe
I have all of my books in boxes in the attic. I just haven't had time to take out the trash. I look forward to doing it purely for its metaphoric meaning.
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Your story in 3 sentences or less.......
by ApagaLaLuz inhey!
shotguns post got me thinking.
post your story is 3 sentences or less, if possible.
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eljefe
I was born as a JW. I was screwed over once, twice, and thrice. Finally wised up and left.
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I let a friend know I was having problems......
by nemo inhello everyone nemo here...just keep swimming, swimming, swimming.. anyway, i let my closest friend know how i felt currently about the organization and what affect it has had on me.
she has agreed to not share it with anyone, she won't, but these are the questions she possed to me.
i need to reply soon but my mind is overwhelmed with everything i have learned so i would like help formulating some answers.
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eljefe
I have been thinking a lot about the illustrations that JWs use to "show" that they are the truth. There is a definition for this type of reasoning, logical fallacy.
This diamond illustration has nothing to do with JWs. Here is a funny logical fallacy from South Park. Anyway, if you analyze the logic of their defense, you will be able to see through them. Hope this helps. -
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Toothpick skinny or the real thing?
by Stefanie inthis is just off topic of a recent thread about britney or beyonce.
how many of you guys out there prefer a real woman with curves.
how many of you guys prefer a boney stick body?.
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eljefe
I think a lot of a man?s preference has to do with his age. Younger guys tend to like women a bit skinnier and as we get older we find that curves are easier to snuggle with. I am definitely a breast man first and I love naturally ample breasts that just don?t occur often with toothpick women.
That is why God created breast implants. It even says it in the Bible:
Genesis 2:56-57
56 And God looked down on the Earth and beheld many flat chested women. And he began to weep for them. 57 And God proceeded to take silicon and form implant with it. And for 3,000 shekels per breast the flat chested women's breats were enlarged. And he looked down on and them and it was good. -
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An honest estimate of ourselves.... (long)
by Theocrat ingod says: ?blessed is the able-bodied man who puts his trust in jehovah, and whose confidence jehovah has become.?
a governing body that made decisions based on the scriptures and blessed by jehovah!
now, he is once again serving as a christian elder.
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However, his family and the other elders did not treat him as if he were an apostate. They lovingly helped him through prayer and upbuilding conversations.