bebu,
sorry. my bad. was having a flashback moment. Reading Under the Banner of Heaven was just about as sickening to me as was reading Crisis of Conscience and Awakening of a Jehovah's Witness (Wilson)
bebu,
sorry. my bad. was having a flashback moment. Reading Under the Banner of Heaven was just about as sickening to me as was reading Crisis of Conscience and Awakening of a Jehovah's Witness (Wilson)
it's been exactly 2 years since i stopped attending jw meetings and it's taken a toll on my marriage.
i expected as much but i guess you can never really prepare for the pain you have to go through when one mate no longer believes in the same things they once did.
i think my wife has honestly tried hard (as have i) to make the relationship work but i think we're both realizing that there are some really large issues before us that will never be resolved.
My wife and I started questioning the troof at the same time. She supported me and had my back when the elders came after me with sanctions due to my lack of spirituality = facial hair. Thank God for her backbone and her intelligence - mind as sharp as a whip and been around the Org long enough to know their wicked mind games and scripture twisting. She called them out on every single point of their "reasoning" and double-speak during an Orwellian 3 hour "shepherding call."
Stopped attending meetings 8 months ago. I sent in my DA letter January. She sent her's last week.
Marriage is SO much better because we are now able to have time with each other (not always running to the Water Buffalo Lodge to listen to the Grand PooBah); we can be honest with each other and ourselves, since neither one of us was really buying the "Truth", but afraid to admit as much to each other; no more judging each other for not "having that pioneer spirit" .
Blondie mentioned a good resource -- Steve Hassan's Combatting Cult Mind Control.
if this has already been posted, i apologise for repeating it.
in the july wt, the writers have come up with the new theory that islam is the new king of the north.
i haven't seen the article yet, .
Shotgun,
you are killin' me here.
FLOL (Freaking Laughing Out Loud)
no.
and i wouldn't believe any LDS crap either.
both religions cut from the same cloth. (read "Under The Banner of Heaven")
EyeDrEvil
i found this on the official jw site:
conscience
jehovah's witnesses avoid making rules and regulations beyond those provided in the scriptures, and they do not follow traditions that contradict bible teachings.
not reaching out for privileges such as:
carrying the microphones at meetings
being in charge of the sound system
working the lit counter
etc.....................
= SPIRITUALLY WEAK BROTHER
(AVOID HIM AND HIS FAMILY. HE IS GOING TO BRING YOU DOWN INTO HIS MIRE)
i saw my family this past weekend while visiting my home state for a few days.
its almost comical at this point how terrified my own siblings are of me.
like they cant even look me in the eye when they talk ....its so sad.
"But I am the one who is OUT so its my fault according to her. "So even though I spent my life miserable and now I am HAPPY for once you would have me throw that away just to make it easier for you all to be comfortable around me?" No comment...change of subject."
words coming to my mind right now.....
GUILT TRIP
MANIPULAION
EMOTIONAL BLACKMAIL
CONDITIONAL ACCEPTANCE / LOVE
EXTORTION
Any group, business, organization, etc that fosters a CULTURE in which these concepts can thrive is evil, regardless of their raison d'etre / mission.
Flower,
I am sorry for your pain. It must be rough. BUT good for you to have made your stand and stuck with it. Despite dubbers proclamations of gloom and doom about the "world" ......
LIFE IS BETTER WHEN NOT LIVING UNDER THE SHADOW OF THE WATCHTOWER.
EyeDrEvil
our columbus, ohio support group offers social opportunities for those who have left the watchtower organization.
while towerwatch ministries is a christian based ministry our get-togethers are simply a time for fellowship, we realize that we are all at different stages spiritually in our "post watchtower" lives.
towerwatch support group meetings are held the third sunday of each month in a private home in central, ohio.
Hey Tower!
Good to see you again. See you this Sunday.
EyeDrEvil
i just finished commenting on minimus' thread (oh man, i hope it was his thread now...not enough coffee yet to be fully brained today...).
anyway, it was the thread on how everyone was choosing to leave/has left from the org.
i hate with a passion the fact that i was judged while in the wts.
Cerise,
I know EXACTLY what you are saying here. I was having the same feelings after leaving the Matrix. Co-workers, parents of my children's friends, "apostates." I too judged them (not out loud, but always at some level of thought) while still a JW.... I felt that I owed each and every one of them a heartfelt apology.
And now... who are the people who offer true, unconditional love and friendship? Those same people that I judged. Didn't JC say that his followers would be identified by "the love they show for each other?"
happily unplugged from the Matrix,
EyeDrEvil
i thought i would start a weekly column of wts inanity, inanity serious enough to have affected peoples perceptions and negatively changed their lives.. .
one famous wts myth that i have heard uttered more times a minimus question is that ?women feel while men think?, did you ever wonder where the wts dug that thought up from?
apparently from an unamed woman psychologist and the famous department of ?many authorities?
Women frequently measure up to men and surpass them in intelligence, but they are handicapped by the weight of emotional drag.
handicapped by the weight of emotional drag ----- such as reading this crapola and trying to make it fit in their lives, and wondering what is wrong with them, since they realize it is a pile of s*^t! eyedrevil ---- damn, how do i turn off this friggin highlight function!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!question for all ye wise folks in the know -.
was the "beware the voice of strangers" talk (http://quotes.watchtower.ca/bewarethevoiceofstrangers.htm) given at the district conventions last summer?
i'm not terribly familiar with how that works.
"these very, extremely wicked opposers of Jehovah, and of truth, have succeeded in affecting the spiritual balance of quite a few of our brothers and sisters, who have listened to their poisonous propaganda"
maybe the dubs who watched the (dateline) documentary actually saw something that was a legitimate concern.... maybe THAT is why they were stumbled...
does this sound like the Borg is desperate and struggling to hold on? why else would they see fit to pre-warn their sheep and put a "spin" on the entire story.
F*^K-ing PATHETIC!
sorry, but this makes me wretch. plus, this bottle of cabernet has my fingers flying!
time for puff puff give.... (I need to settle down)
eyedrevil