Athanasius

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  Alternative Military Service is Now OK

  by Sea Breeze in

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  2. beliefs

  but i wonder: how many jw's went to prison during the years that the wt did not allow them to perform community service as an alternative to military service?.

  anyone care to take a stab at the numbers?.

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  During the 1960s in the USA a number of draft age JWs joined the Pioneer ranks. This satisfied the Selective Service officials and the Pioneers were granted Clergy status and exempt from the draft. One could also marry, get wife pregnant and get the father with dependent children deferment.

  When the US abolished the draft and went to an all volunteer Military, young JW men began to avoid Pioneer service. In fact I remember an elders meeting where the CO said he hoped the government would reimpose the draft, that way there would be incentive for JW young men would join the Pioneer ranks.
  
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

  by Simon in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.

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  You are so right, Elana. In fact it wouldn't surprise me if when he returns to the UK, that he would begin attending his father's Kingdom Hall and ask the elders to be reinstated.

  He could claim to be the prodigal son and the JWs would accept him back. Then he'd sponge off gullible JWs for financial assistance.
  
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  Inaccuracies regarding pagan origins

  by AEnEm in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  easter and christmas have pagan origins.

  many of us were told that since birth.

  the evidence?

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  The Watchtower writers are famous for their scholastic dishonesty.
  
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  Is there really a Bible rule against sex without marriage?

  by Halcon in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  regarding the poster from jw headquarters, who claimed that the gb would eventually loosen the rules regarding sex.

  the question is, is there really a bible rule explicitly prohibiting sex without marriage?

  because this would be the only possible reason why loosening those rules would even come up in a discussion.

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  George, I remember the case you are referring to. I think it was in a Watchtower Study article back in the 1960s.
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  The TWO new things to come this year for J.W Org !

  by Phizzy in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  while having my first strong black coffee of the day, i was thinking about what may be to come next as the org.

  rapidly goes mainstream, and this is what i came up with :.

  1) they will introduce for sunday, the after meeting fellowship, a time for just chatting but with the added bonus of coffee and snacks.

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  Athanasius

  I think that the GB initiating a “Coffee Hour” after the Sunday Meeting is a possibility. Most Churches already provide light beverages and snacks for their parishioners after Sunday services. However, such a change for JWs would be approved only after Watchtower Legal had considered the effect of local laws and liabilities on the Organization.

  Regarding the Blood issue, isn't the Watchtower's present policy “Don't ask, don't tell?” So all the GB would have to do is tell the JWs that all medical treatments and procedures are now a conscience matter and is not the concern of JWs, including the elders, as to what medical course of action an individual chooses.
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

  by Simon in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.

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  Looks like Lloyd's most recent video has 34k views and his patreon membership is up to 364.

  While the recent doctrinal and rule changes in the JW religion may increase his income temporarily, I doubt that making anti-JW activism one's primary source of income is sustainable.
  

  As the GB abolishes their cultic rules and doctrines and makes JWism mainline, the religion will no longer be an authoritarian threat. So why would anyone pay Lloyd money to rail against doctrines and rules the JWs no longer practice?

  It looks like the GB may be the ones who will "bring down the Tower," leaving Lloyd out in the cold.
  
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

  by Simon in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.

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  Lloyd claims that during February he was "battling a weirdly-lengthy cold-flu virus which has majorly impacted my productivity."

  What he really meant was that he was on a strong regimen of antibiotics to treat the STDs he got from using cheap hookers. The side effects from those drugs made him lethargic, causing him lack the energy and motivation to churn out content.

  Of course this wouldn't go down well with his patrons. Thus the "weirdly-lengthy cold-flu virus" excuse.
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

  by Simon in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.

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  Apparently Lloyd doesn't know how to manage his finances. When he was raking in big bucks off the backs of his patrons, he should have invested some of that money so that he would have income for the future.

  Instead he spent it on prostitutes and trips to Thailand.

  However, I think Lloyd protests too much when he claims that the sex workers he employed were older than 20.
  
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  Where is Tony?

  by Athanasius in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  on february 22, 2023, anthony morris iii was officially removed from the governing body of jehovah's witnesses.

  a few months later it was revealed that the watchtower bought him a house in lumberton, north carolina.. however, and correct me if i am wrong, since leaving the gb nobody has reported seeing tony attending jw meetings or participating in field service.

  in fact nobody has reported seeing him anywhere, not even at a local liquor store.

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  Though the Watchtower may have Tony and his wife sequestered somewhere incommunicado, what about his sons and their wives? Has anybody heard what may have happened to them? Has there been any recent sightings of the Morris brothers?
  
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  Lloyd Evans Patreoff Pool March 2024

  by DerekMoors in

  1. social
  2. humour

  for those still interested in lloyd's fall from grace, i made up a chart of my own.

  april 2023 is when he put out his "things are bad" tin cup begging video, and he got a small surge to 592 on the 13th of that month.

  i'm also using his all-time peak of 897 from november 2022.. for march, we're gonna say a modest -15, putting him at 352. i'm also curious as to when he might hit 300 and then 200. if he keeps up with an average of -20 every month, he'll be at less than 190 before the end of this year.. happy guessing everyone..

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  Put me down for 338.