When on holiday in the US my ex-wife and I never attended the KHs at the places we visited. However, we did attend a couple of KHs when we visited Canada. Though the people spoke with a different accent, the JW service was still the same old stuff they peddle in the USA.
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I never did it, did you?
by Outaservice in.
in the past whenever you went on vacation (holiday) did you try and find a kingdom hall to attend and also try and put in some service time?.
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What's your present belief ?
by JH in.
without attacking anyone for their beliefs, feel free to state what you believe in right now.. personally, i still believe in a higher power, a creator, call him jehovah if you wish, a god that will put things back right eventually.
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Athanasius
Anglo-Catholic.
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WHAT WOULD IT TAKE TO STOP SHUNNING?
by Mary ini feel really angry and upset.
a good friend of mine is going through hell because they are being shunned by their children and grandchildren.
their sin?
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Athanasius
Government interference in the Watchtower's shunning policy will only bring cries of persecution by the GB and may even strengthen their hold on the rank and file. Bad publicity and economic pressure are still the best methods to use against the Watchtower corporation. Keep in mind that the Watchtower is not really a religion but a publishing house, a business. Therefore, if bad PR affects the bottom line, the business must make positive changes to get back their share of the market.
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...How Long did You Lurk?...
by OUTLAW inwhen i first found this place,i did not want to post.i wanted to see what was going on,and get a feel for the place..getting into a debate with some of the "meat eaters" here,was not at the top of my list of things to do..lol!
!..now this place is my cyber home..(thanks simon!
)..so my question is:how long did you lurk before you decieded to take a chance and make your first post?...outlaw
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Athanasius
A couple of days.
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Athanasius
I met Jaracz back in 1974. At the time he was new to the GB, having been appointed the previous year. I didn't think he was anything special. Jaracz impressed me as a typical Watchtower company man. But like Lord Acton said: "Power tends to corrupt. Absolute power corrupts, absolutely." Jaracz and his GB buddies proved Lord Acton right.
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Elder is going to visit me....
by DannyBloem ina few weeks ago on the convention i met this elder, and he wants to visit me to talk.. he was quite liberal.
his daughter has been df-ed and she was going to meet him at the convention.
she came when we were still talking.
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Athanasius
During 1984, my last year as an elder a couple of individuals told me of their doubts about the Watchtower and the "apostate" source of their information. At the time the Organization was becoming very opressive as the era of Watchtower Vatican II had ended. I knew that if I reported them to the BOE, which is what we were instructed to do, they would get into serious trouble. So I cautioned them not to talk about their doubts to others, especially to the other elders. My advice to them was that if they no longer felt this was God's Organization, then to leave quietly and gently fade into the background. That way they could avoid being DFd and shunned by their JW family.
Though I resigned as an elder that same year and faded, I kept their secret to this day. Unfortunately they must have talked to someone who put organization rules ahead of compassion, as both were DFd within two years of my departure.
At the time I knew a couple of elders in other congregations who were also compassionate in dealing with those who had doubts. Nevertheless, exercise caution when talking with this elder. His heart may or may not be in the right place.
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Athanasius
I took part in several of the special tract distribution campaigns in the 1970s. Same old JW stuff, just in condensed form.
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How did you treat the kids of faders?
by Mysterious inif you were a jw as a kid how did you and the other youths treat the kids of those that were fading or inactive?.
i remember one remembrance day all the jw kids were in the library while the assembly was on and the kid of fader parents was there and i was asking the other kids in front of him what is he doing here implying he had no right to be around us.
then we started pressuring him to come to meetings even if his parents weren't and he kept making excuses saying he didn't have a suit that fit..etc.
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Athanasius
At the KH I attended as a kid we didn't treat those whose parents were faders any different than those whose parents were active. In fact we were encouraged to help them. But that was a long time ago. Things have probably changed a lot in the congregation since my departure.
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Who Pioneered?
by sass_my_frass inmy two sisters did the right thing, pioneering straight out of school, janitoring to pay for the petrol (one didn't even bother with her final year of school).
it was this kind of fine example that got me guilt-tripped into auxiliary pioneering just after getting baptised at age 20. i only lasted six months; i took a holiday in queensland and returned not knowing much more about life but at least that it's bigger than my little congregation.
i despised the field service, i dreaded the daily schedule and every morning i was on my way out there was this awful countdown from the alarm going off to the first door opening, knowing that it's just a big setup to another depressing humiliation.
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Athanasius
I Pioneered for a couple of years back in the 60s. That is when we were required to spend 100 hours a month in FS. Not the best years of my life.
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Elders Are Closing In....
by daniel-p inwell, it's been about 6 months or so since i've turned in a time report and things are heating up a bit.
i still attend the meetings with my wife - i am still "visible" - but i have not gone out in service for a conspicuous amount of time.
just this afternoon the po called and wanted to meet with me.
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Athanasius
In one of the congregations I attended there was a sister who had a very bad experience in the FS. Though she wasn't physically harmed an opposer verbally abused her. She was so unnerved by the experience that to my knowledge she never participated in FS again.
You could tell the elders that you had a similar experience and that you would prefer not to engage in FS for a while. This might get you off the hook.