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  Was the Atomic Bombing of Japan Really Necessarry?

  by frankiespeakin in

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  link and clip:.

  http://www.doug-long.com/hiroshim.htm.

  hiroshima:was it necessary?part 1 of 2. by doug long.

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  Athanasius

  Hi Frankie,

  Suggest you read Webber's book and draw your own conclusion regarding his documentation and sources.

  Hi Jim,

  Godzilla was awakened by the Hydrogen Bomb tests in the Pacific during the early 50s. Raymond Burr wasn't in the original Godzilla film released in Japan. Burr and and English soundtract were later added for American audiences.

  Many Godzilla films have been released since the original including Son of Godzilla which raised some questions since Godzilla has never been married. Later it was explained that the son was adopted.
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  Was the Atomic Bombing of Japan Really Necessarry?

  by frankiespeakin in

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  link and clip:.

  http://www.doug-long.com/hiroshim.htm.

  hiroshima:was it necessary?part 1 of 2. by doug long.

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  Athanasius

  Hi Frankie,

  You might find Bert Webber's book Silent Siege--III helpful. Webber interviewed several of the Japanese involved in their Atomic project. The Japanese exploded their first atomic bomb on August 10, 1945 on a small island in the Sea of Japan. The Japanese surrender 5 days later prevented further testing.
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  DID ANYONE ELSE GET PASSED OVER W/THE KN TRACT?

  by juni in

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  i live in a small, rural town pop.

  2000. my daughter and i did not get any visit or tract.. i thought this was supposed to be a final warning - a life saving work.. not complaining, but just curious if you didn't get one.. juni .

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  Athanasius

  The JWs never came around to give me their "life-saving" tract. In fact you never see them working our neigborhood and I've lived here for over 7 years.
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  New study calls "Jehovah's protective hygiene laws" into serious question

  by under_believer in

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  anybody remember this favorite witness concept?

  the mosaic laws were basically perfect, the theory goes.

  one evidence of this perfection was the fact that the hygenic requirements harmonize with current science, were obviously better than what everyone else at the time was practicing, and resulted in great health benefits for the israelites.

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  Athanasius

  Though I don't claim to be a Bible Scholar, it seems that this particular "hygiene law" had reference to setting up camp during a miliary campaign. Deuteronomy 23:10, one of the preceding verses says: "When you are in camp during an expedition against your enemies, you shall keep yourselves from everything offensive." In this context the advice to dig latrines outside the camp during a military operation in enemy territory makes sense, and to cover them up so the enemy doesn't smell the presence of an attacker is also good advice.

  Perhaps Essenes had a governing body that took these verses out of context, instructions for mobile military operations, and applied to them a settled community. Kind of like the JW Governing Body that applies Old Testament dietary regulations to forbid modern life-saving medical procedures
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  It just seems that Witnesses are less active these days.

  by free2beme in

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  i remember being a teenager and being at friends home on saturdays, and every time you turn around there was a witness knocking at the door.

  my non-witness friends would be nice, and say no, as they did not want to insult me.

  even though, as a teenager, i was not a witnesses (baptized) and did not make a public show of my connection to people outside of the congregation.

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  The JWs don't seem to be very active in my area. I've lived at my present residence for almost 6 years and no JWs have called. Looks like I won't get that new tract everyone is talking about.
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  If you didn't vote yesterday, why not? (I didn't)

  by AlmostAtheist in

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  in the u.s. we had a voting day yesterday that decided more than just any one candidate for any one position, but which ideology (democratic or republican) would hold sway over the government.

  if ever there was a time to weigh in, you'd think this woulda been it.. but i didn't.. of course i'm lazy.

  of course i'm distracted, and busy, and unsure of where to vote.

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  Athanasius

  I voted.
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  CA members

  by Chameleon in

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  who here is in ca?

  i'm in southern ca, and that's all i'm willing to reveal for now.

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  Athanasius

  Also from Northern California.
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  How significant was the 1995 bombshell - generation?

  by jambon1 in

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  i was wondering what effect the article on the generation change had on most people here?.

  for years, the trump card on the ministry when replying to the "it will never come in my day" objection to armageddon, was the doctrine of the generation.

  many jw`s probobly held back from making important financial comitments.

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  Athanasius

  I had left the JWs 11 years earlier so it didn't have any effect on me. However, being curious about how the JWs were taking it, I attended the Watchtower Study at a congregation in Sacramento, CA a month before they were scheduled to study the Generation article. Surprisingly the KH was so full that I had to sit in the room used for the second school. I thought it might be the week of the CO's visit. But no, it was just a regular public talk and Watchtower Study. After the meeting I got a copy of the Generation Watchtower and took it home for closer study. A month or so later I attended the same congregation to see how the JWs would respond to the "new light," as it was the weekend for the Generation study. This time I had not problem finding a seat. In fact the attendance was only a third of what it had been during my previous visit. What was also interesting is how few commented during the Watchtower study. Also nobody said anything about this being a new understanding about the generation.

  I thought that the low meeting attendance for that important study article may have been due to the fact that it was early December and maybe a lot of the JWs were doing their Chistmas shopping.
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  Voting with their wallet

  by SirNose586 in

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  when i came here in may, i began to see phrases like "voting with their wallets" or "voting with their feet" in regards to declining contributions and declining attendance figures.

  i think i am seeing the former in action..... last sunday i went to the local ca.

  at the half they read the accounts report--aka, cough up that dough report--and there was a "$4,000 deficit.

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  Athanasius

  I dropped $6.00 into the contribution box at the last District Assembly that I attended. Gave them two crisp Chuck Russell three dollar bills.
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  Your opinion: Are those raised as Witnesses more likely to end up godless?

  by under_believer in

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  was thinking about this the other day and wanted to get your (yes: your) opinion.

  i find myself slipping farther and farther down the agnostic scale in my thinking--it's possible that i'll end up an atheist.

  my suspicion is that because i was raised being taught that all other religions are false, that i came to the conclusion that if the witnesses don't have "the truth" then nobody does.

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  Athanasius

  I was raised a JW and until I left the Watchtower in 1984 didn't know any other religion. However, my departure from the JWs didn't turn me against God or religion. Though my spiritual journey took me to a number of religions, I became an Episcopalian in 1991 and still attend Church services.

  But I know others who were raised in the JW religion have had a different experience.