Ireland and Russia. Loved Dublin and Cork. However, St. Petersburg, Russia was the most beautiful city that I visited.
Athanasius
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What's your favourite country you've visited?
by lfcviking inmine is australia.
the's so much to do there, the climate is so warm, the wildlife there is so vast & interesting, you can scuba dive the great barrier reef, there's so many cool beaches and overall it seems quite civilised.
i'd love to go back there again for another jolliday.. what's yours?.
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What should I do with the old magazines?
by sacolton ini've got two boxes full of watchtower and awake magazines dating back to 2000 maybe abit further.
should i just trash them?
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Athanasius
If everyone dumped their old Watchtower books and magazines off at the KH it would create a problem for the JWs. Since JWs aren't supposed to engage in independent thinking, the local Witnesses would soon be writing to Brooklyn requesting instructions as to how to deal with the new situation. With so many requests for clarification, this would require a "questions from readers" article or a spot in the Kingdom Ministry about "What to do if old Watchtower literature is returned to the Kingdom Hall?" Should they deduct the returned literature from future service reports? If the literature is in good condition can it be reused in field service? Should they ask for a donation if they are using returned literature in the field service? Should returned literature be given to new JWs to complete their Theocratic library? The list of questions could go on and on.
It will also be bad for moral seeing a stack on returned magazines on the KH steps on Saturday morning on magazine day. Saturday is still "magazine day" isn't it? -
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What should I do with the old magazines?
by sacolton ini've got two boxes full of watchtower and awake magazines dating back to 2000 maybe abit further.
should i just trash them?
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Athanasius
Burning books, no matter how much one disagrees with the content, reminds me too much of the Nazis and their book burning fires. "Where they burn books, they also burn people," a wise man once said. It has also been said that the JWs worst enemy is their own publications. So I agree with Open Mind's suggestion to leave the magazines at places they are not wanted. Also as several have suggested, just leave them at the KH and let the JWs waste time trying to figure out what to do with them. I remember when I was a JW that people would occasionally leave a stack of magazines on the KH steps. Some of the JWs found this depressing, because of the hours spent trying to place the magazines and to then have them all returned. I don't recall whether publishers were required to deduct these returned magazines from their next field service report or not.
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Steven T. Byington / Bible in Living English
by cathyk inthere's an article posted by william dalton at the andover townsman on steven t. byington, translator of the bible in living english.
there are some interesting tidbits about the man which i didn't know, including the fact that he was an anarchist!.
you might want to head over to the comboxes, because there's only me (with a neutral post) and a couple of rah-rah jw posts.
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Athanasius
I remember when the Bible in Living English was released in 1972. One of the elders in our congregation loved it so much that he often used it in his talks, sometimes to the exclusion of the NWT. Many of the renderings in Byington's Bible are superior to the NWT. Interestingly this elder left the JWs a few years later. No doubt the Bible in Living English was a factor.
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What was wrong with the 'occultic green' bibles?
by Gill inwhat was wrong with the 'green bible'?.
i understand (rightly or wrongly) that the 'green' had occult connotations that some did not approve of.. is this true and were the early jws too involved with hidden, esoteric, occult meaning that 'others' found uncomfortable and so they had to go to the sobre black bibles?.
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Athanasius
I remember talking to a Circuit overseer in the 1960s when the red pocket NWT came out and he said it was bound that way because the Society got a good deal on red vinyl. Later in 1969 when the first Kingdom Interlinear Translation (KIT) came out in purple, it was said that the Society got another good deal on vinyl. By the way I remember Bill Centnar used to call the KIT the "Purple People Eater."
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Rutherford......the Pimp?
by Gill inis it true, as i was reading yesterday, that rutherford provided a brothel for the male members of the bethel?.
i will provide a link later when i get back!.
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Athanasius
Though I don't claim to be a Rutherford Scholar, I have done extensive research into his early life and his involvement in Democratic Party politics. And, Richard Felix's work on Rutherford's legal dealings and his family relations is fairly acurate. Though some have speculated about Joe's membership in the Masons, I haven't found anything that would confirm this. However, I do have documentation that Rutherford was a member of two Mason like fraternal organizations, the International Woodsmens Association, and the Knights of Pythias. William Jennings Bryan was a member of the Knights of Pythias and Rutherford was a great fan of Bryan, so it was logical that he would be a member of the same club.
Regarding the "brothel at Bethel," unless someone has concrete documentation, I would consider it just another wild rumor with no basis in fact. That Rutherford may have turned a blind eye toward homosexual practices among the Bethel staff, this would not be unusual. Just as the Military sometimes overlooks homosexuals in the ranks due to their special skills and the difficulty in replacing them, so Rutherford may have done the same reasoning. He probably had a "don't ask don't tell" policy too.
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How did you "expand" your Field Service time
by donny ini remember when a brother named donis and i used to go out in field service on the weekends we took advantage of our congregations large territory.
we each had about nine return visits and we would pick one on the southern end of the territory and afterwards drive to one in the northern part and then back again.
along the way we would throw in laundry mat to dump a lot of the magazines that were given to us by other brothers/sisters who needed room in their garage.
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Athanasius
Making lots of RVs that were scattered around our congregation's territory. Regarding hours, I always rounded up. If I put in one hour and 10 minutes, I would round it up to two hours. I worked with several pioneers who did the same.
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Do YOU Look Like YOUR Avatar/JWD mini-pic
by RAYZORBLADE indo you look like your jwd profile pic?.
just curious.. that stupid pic of me in a columbia rain jacket is real.
it's 2 yrs.
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Athanasius
Yep, thats me. The photo was taken the year after Armageddon. So thats me in the new world where nobody grows old.
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Athanasius
Hi Dan, Sorry that you got chewed out for using the American Standard Bible. I started using other Bible translations in my talks in 1970 when I got a copy of the New English Bible. However, I always made it a point to introduce which translation I was using before reading the Scripture. Interestingly there were a number of JWs who would come up after the talk and ask about which Bible translations I was using. Some of them would comment that the verses which I read from the other Bibles were so much easier to understand when compared to the NWT. The NWT's wording is so wooden. I hated it when the NWT uses the term "system of things" when the original Greek word "eon" actually means "age" or "era." I forget the Scripture, but where most Bibles say "the end of the ages," the NWT says "the end of the systems of things." That must have been a term Freddy Franz invented.
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poll/ survey on what you "were" (rank in your hall)
by burningbridges ini wasjust really curious to see what the average of everyone's "history" is here, and also how many "higer ups" we have that have abandoned the ways.
so what were you, an elder?
a pioneer?
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Athanasius
At 18 I was appointed Magazine-Territory Servant under the old Congregation Servant arrangement. Then at 24 was appointed Theocratic School Servant. I also pioneered for two years.
When the elder arrangement came in in 1972 I was appointed an elder. Was Watchtower Study conductor, Bible Study Overseer, Field Overseer, Presiding Overseer, and Congregation Book Study conductor. But the position that I enjoyed the most was Theocratic School Overseer. When the rotation of elders stopped I requested the Theocratic School, an unpopular responsiblity in our congregation, and quickly got the appointment. I served as School Overseer until 1984 when I resigned as an elder so that I could return to college and finish my education.