Yes it's truly amazing how the pioneers are so interested in "counting time" but can't stop by elderly witness ladies who have given their whole life to the stupid cult. My mom is elderly and had some health issues earlier this year with a hip replacement and when she came home she was a little forgetful and she doesn't drive etc so my uber elder cousin (she's his aunt) and his wife thought I should get a day off of my full time job every week in order to go care for her.(Ive been DF'd for 40 years) She wasn't in a wheel chair or anything just needs some company and perhaps someone to help her with meals a little and take her to the store. I asked how come the pioneers couldn't help out since they were out driving around anyway and I was told in no uncertain terms that they were "stretched too thin" and "it wasn't their responsibility to help with their elderly members." OMG! So now my mom on a fixed income has to pay an agency 3 afternoons a week to come and help her and she's on a fixed income!!! My elder cousin is well off as well because of his non witness dad giving him several rental properties way back when. So yeah can't count time so no help for the elderly that really need it. I hate these people! So they can waste their time and gas driving around bugging people that don't want them but their own members they can't help out at all!