I am proud of you quitters! Keep up the good work,
AJ
meant to post this yesterday, but been so busy with life and marriage!
yesterday was my 20th week anniversary on the day that i quit smoking!
it feels so good to be smoke free, my wife is happier and so is my bank account, lol!.
I am proud of you quitters! Keep up the good work,
AJ
i'm am so heart broken to see my boyfriend with so many internal strugles.
he is a good man, a good god fearing man and this is why it has been so difficult for him to leave the jw's religion.
we love each other so much and we want to be married but he fears the consequences of marring somebody who is not a jw.
Seven years is a LONG time. What do you think the next seven will be like if you continue with him? Truly think about it.
He needs to find someone else who will take him in, you deserve someone who will give you 110%. Believe me, love
is not about submissiveness, stress over religion, etc. etc. TAKE charge of your life, listen to these people on the
board. Find someone who is either of your same faith or who is willing to go with you into a faith that the two of you
agree on, TOGETHER.
Take Care,
AJ
is there a time not to speak out?.
is there a time when it might be better not to say something and put doubts into someone's mind?.
we, as a family are 'faded' for well over five years now.
Make a cake or a batch of cookies and give them a call. You'll be glad you did it, whether they follow your advice or not. Something simply like "We followed the JW teachings for ____years and we wish now that someone had visited us like this, so I hope you'll understand why I want to express my concerns to you." You're getting lots of good advice here, I wish you the best! Let us know how it goes.
AJ
untill the last year i stayed 50 years old.
now it has finally hit me, i'm getting old.
i never felt my age and could do about any thing without pain or feeling like my body couldn't take it.
Getting old beats the alternative! I'm hanging on to 58 for a couple more months. ugh. You need to spend
time with my 90 year old mother, who is waiting to die. She can hardly see or hear, but her mind is pretty
darn sharp. The body is shot. She just came out of her 'cocoon'; she puts herself into every few months...goes
to bed, doesn't want to talk, etc. Thinks it is time for her to pass on. This last time I got rather depressed over it
and was not very gentle on her! Then I decided it is her choice, not mine, to live her days as she wishes; I can
only give positive thoughts (hard to come up with when you are dealing with someone like this!).
she's in a nursing home and this morning told the nurse she'd just eaten her last breakfast. When I saw her tonite,
after supper, she told me how good it was; we had a pretty interesting chat and she said she'd go out for a hamburger
with me when the weather gets nicer. So, ups and downs.
The more I'm around her, I think I'd like to die before I get old. (someone's words from a song in the 60's??)
AuntieJane
while reading about the sad tragedy in slc, i came across a blog.
i found it pretty interesting in that it could be compared to exjw's.
i didn't realize there was a secret mormon handshake!
sound effects, now that would really make a statement!
less then two years ago my cousin, who was then 39, was working on his parents home and found he was having a hard time hammering in nails.
he would hit the nail, but as hard as he would try, he would end up making it crocked and he could not control it.
he thought this was weird, and decided to visit a doctor.
It's just so true; life is short. We never know what we will face, either.
If we are hurting or complaining over some minor event, we need only look at someone facing
these real tragedies of life, like cancer or accidents, etc. and be grateful for
what we have.
We need to treasure the time we have, esp. with those we love.
I guess that's why orgs like the JW's bother me so much, they take away the real love.
while reading about the sad tragedy in slc, i came across a blog.
i found it pretty interesting in that it could be compared to exjw's.
i didn't realize there was a secret mormon handshake!
While reading about the sad tragedy in SLC, I came across a blog. I found it pretty interesting in that it could be compared to exJW's. I didn't realize there was a secret Mormon handshake! Maybe that's something that could be started here...a secret exJW handshake ! Just kidding, but maybe not...? Anyway, sorry to digress, it was an interesting blog, here it is:
At work, one of my colleagues revealed he's from Waco, Texas, so I commented that my college has as many connotations as Waco. Of course, everyone then asked where I went to college. I started internally berating myself for bringing it up, but I told them anyway: BYU. The inevitable follow-up questions ensued. "Are you Mormon? Did you grow up in Utah?"
I told them, No, I'm not Mormon. But I was raised Mormon.
One women related that she has Mormon neighbors who are very nice to her. They cook her dinner, get her to come play volleyball (at the stake center?), and, yep, you guessed it, invite her to church.
"No way," she said, "that's where I draw the line. I am Catholic and am staying that way. I'd like to think they're being my friends for my sake, but I can't help think they just want to convert me."
"Sorry," I said. "They will always have conversion on their minds. Of course Mormons are capable of making friendships for the sake of friendships, but it will always be somewhere in their minds that they should try to convert you. Sorry, but that's the way it is."
We got into a discussion that included Under the Banner of Heaven and blood atonement, the church's restrictions on piercings, premarital sex, tattoos, and how BYU came dead last in a ranking of party schools. I told them I was thinking about both a nose piercing and a tattoo, and they teased me that now that I am settled down with a family, I'm going through my rebellious stage. That made me laugh.
I explained that when I am in Utah, I want to stand out so other ex-mos can identify me easily. A lot of us are in some degree of hiding, so it's hard to know who is who. I nose piercing would be a great clue, I told them. To that, one of the guys joked about secret handshakes.
"Actually," I said, "funny you should say that. Mormons do have secret handshakes. And if I ever gave one to someone, they would know I'm an ex-Mormon."
"Wacko," the Catholic girl said. I concurred.
The conversation moved on, and I went home at the end of the day. And I realized I was in a damn good mood. Talking about Mormonism, and having people agree with me that some of that stuff is just wacko--that made me feel good. I'm not crazy after all.
less then two years ago my cousin, who was then 39, was working on his parents home and found he was having a hard time hammering in nails.
he would hit the nail, but as hard as he would try, he would end up making it crocked and he could not control it.
he thought this was weird, and decided to visit a doctor.
I'm so sorry for your loss. If I may correct you, though, it is called Lou Gehrig's disease, for a famous New York Yankees
player in the 1930's, Lou Gehrig. Here is from the website, www.lougehrig.com :
Doctors at the Mayo Clinic diagnosed Gehrig with a very rare form of degenerative disease: amyotrophic lateral sclerosis (ALS), which is now called Lou Gehrig's disease. There was no chance he would ever play baseball again.
He lived about 2 years after diagnosis.
This is a horrible disease. My husbands cousin is now in the final stages; she was dx'd just a year ago, had been stumbling, etc. and no one could figure it out for awhile. Sadly, she is now in a nursing home, 58 years old, only able to be spoonfed, pretty much totally paralyzed. It is a horrendous time for families. Interesting, he had another cousin, on the in-law side, so no blood relation, who also had this; his started in his throat, so he was just the opposite of this cousin. He lost his speech, etc. but was still able to walk til almost the end.
Again, I am so sorry and can truly understand what your family has gone through.
AJ
i've had in the past studied a little about the bible with jws but have yet decided to be baptised.. i've just read lavenders' moving letter to her son and her love and well being for him is very obvious.
i do like the bible teachings very much and to this day i'm very interested in the end of the system of things which will very soon come to fruition; i'm a very strong believer, however i must stipulate to all, in retrospect i'm not sinless.
one of the posters says that jw's ask you to do a liitle bible study with them, attend one of their meetings and when you get baptised you have to do exactly what you are instructed or else.
dontknow...welcome! Lavendar just gave you an excellent link. I wanted to address your post as well.
one thing you said something like if you smell even a whiff of deception you will not become JW.
I can assure you, as others have told you, it will not necessarily be obvious, this deception. You may
not get a whiff of it. But, the truth is, IT DOES SMELL...IT STINKS. Sad, but true. The followers do not
fully know they are being deceived, their training is so deep. Don't follow their blindness, open your eyes.
What religion, if any, does the rest of your family follow? Were you brought up in a faith? Please, just
take your time. My family has been split up because of this so-called religion. Do you know they did not
even call themselves Christians until very recently when they decided it would make them more appealing to be
known as Christians. The funny thing is, Christian, or "follower of Christ" can hardly belong to a group who denies
the Deity of Christ. The New Testament, if you read any version except the WTS's New World Translation (only
available in Kingdom Halls) is very clear that the followers of Christ KNEW him to be God. yet, the JW's fully deny this,
and they call themselves followers of Christ? ?????
Take your time, please. Discuss with your family and friends who are Not JW. Another good link is www.carm.org
You can research any religions there. I wish you peace my friend,
AJ
because of growing up in a divided household i had a glimpse into family gatherings at the holidays .
my most treasured memories are of those shared times together .
we would come over to our grandparents after the gift giving ,but still shared the meals and the family .
It makes me sad to think of people like you...and my family members. But gives me hope, too, that someday
they may be saying the same thing. Which would mean they are out of the cult. At least you are moving forward, that is such a good thing!
AJ