every january, they read the letter as to where you'll be "assigned" for the convention and then the our kingdom ministry will detail all the do's and don'ts to remember.
was going to these things ever enjoyable to you?
Are you kidding? They were the greatest. The fruit bags, the pudding, the large assortment of cute boys, getting new dresses, getting to sit with a friend and giggle all during the session, seeing old friends, the drama of the drama. We lived for it.
Of course now it pales in comparison to an afternoon spent on the computer, but at the time it was as good as life got.
can you get in trouble for playing chess, having a very large gathering, going to a pg13 movie, etc.??????
so many answers amounted to this----as the answer-----"you just know better, that's all".
"mature ones" just "knew" without asking whether something was right or wrong, doable or not.
The only comment I ever remember my father giving at a meeting was studying the Family book. Answering on how to care for and nurture your family, my father said you should neuter your children.
My mom gets tears in her eyes to this day remembering that comment. It was funnier because he didn't realize his mistake.
news
jehovah's witness accidentally eats candy cane .
above: kimberly flemmel mourns her excommunication from the jehovah's witness congregation after eating a candy cane .
I think she should have already been disfellowshipped for wearing that black nail polish.
has anyone who left the "truth" felt like i do... that you cant approach god anymore?
here are a few facts that i have recently discovered by doing some research.. the watchtower society uses the date of 539 b.c.e as the date that cyrus took over babylon.
they use the term "absolute date" to define this as an unquestionable point in time.
to do this they had to ignore 586 b.c.e which is the real date for the destruction of jerusalem.. therefore, if jerusalem never lay desolate for 70 years, when does this desolation and fulfillment of this prophecy take place?
Scholar said, "586, 587 and 607 are derived or calcuable dates and are not based on any existing, direct secular evidence."
Below is a list of direct secular evidence that points to 586/587 BCE as the date for the overthrow of Jerusalem.
Neo-Babylonian Chronicles, the Uruk kinglist, the Royal Canon, Nabon. No. 18 and Nabon. No. 8 (the Hillah stele), Nabon. H 1, B (the Adad-guppi' stele), many legal documents from each year of the Neo-Babylonian period, lunar eclipse tablet LBAT 1417, lunar eclipse tablet LBAT 1419, lunar eclipse tablet LBAT 1420, lunar eclipse tablet LBAT 1421, astronomical diary VAT 4956, astronomical diary B.M. 32312, Saturn tablet B.M. 76738+76813.
These are a FEW of the items that are accepted by experts in the field as direct evidence of 586/587 as the date for the overthrow of Jerusalem, and are considered to prove that date as absolute.
I think this is an example of the kind of evidence people on this forum are looking for when they ask you for proof of the 607 date.
PennyCandy
here are a few facts that i have recently discovered by doing some research.. the watchtower society uses the date of 539 b.c.e as the date that cyrus took over babylon.
they use the term "absolute date" to define this as an unquestionable point in time.
to do this they had to ignore 586 b.c.e which is the real date for the destruction of jerusalem.. therefore, if jerusalem never lay desolate for 70 years, when does this desolation and fulfillment of this prophecy take place?
I hope no one minds an uneducated female sticking her nose in here, but looking into this topic was what initiated my leaving the witnesses.
The secular establishment of the 539 BCE date has nothing to do with the secular establishment of the 607 date. One can only arrive at the 607 date by applying the Watchtower's unique interpretation of scripture.
There are, however, thousands of pieces of evidence, legal documents, astronomical diaries, royal succession lists, which all fit together nicely placing the date of Jerusalem's destruction at 586/587 BCE. Literally thousands, making 586/587 an absolute date. Considered with the very reasonable explanations for the 70 years, the Bible is consistent with secular history.
The pieces of evidence you gave in your above response applied to the 539 date, which isn't in question. I haven't seen any evidence given that applies to the 607 date. Actually, if I remember correctly, there is much more evidence to establish the 586/587 date than there is to establish the 539 date.
The Society itself, in the 5/15/71 Watchtower, p. 316, "Testimony of the Nabonidus Chronicle", admits the Nabonidus Chronicle of itself doesn't provide the basis for establishing the year for the fall of Babylon. It depends on other evidence to complete the puzzle, which it does. But the WT doesn't seem to mind that there is no evidence whatsoever except their own opinion to establish the 607 date.
I'm not a scolar and just have my computer and library to teach me, but that's my $.02.
PennyCandy
after 40 years... part one http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/7/82158/1.ashx.
after 40 years... part two http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/7/82208/1.ashx.
after 40 years... part three http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/7/82230/1.ashx.
tonight on cnn was an interview with an anguished mother visiting thailand who was unable to find her missing daughter.. when the tsunami waves hit they became separated and now was frantically searching for news of her.
in her heart she knew she had died but wanted (needed) to know of her fate.. when interviewed she was about to board her flight back to sweden.
we could feel her pained heart as she told her story.. but now what would you have done?
My mother used to have a dream where she and her children and her mother drove off a bridge and were submerged. She had to decide whether to save her baby or her mother. Unfortunately, I have inherited this dream, only now I am the mother with the choice to make. It's fresh every time it happens.
Fortunately, it's just a dream. It tears my heart apart to think of people having that choice to make in real life.
hey, y'all!.
i'm driving down to texas right after christmas and will arrive in the greater dallas area on the 27th and will be staying until the 3rd of january.
i'd like to get to see some of you wonderful jwd texans.