Posts by bavman

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Do You "Believe" In The Bible At All?

by minimus in

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does anyone believe it's "inspired of god"?

Pro-JW Websites

by bavman in

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here's a couple to check out if you can handle it without throwing up in your mouth.

one of these even gives warnings about apostate sites and how to "safeguard" your mind from the attacks of apostates (lies...all lies...).

http://www.strictlygenteel.co.uk/csoon.html.

Here's a couple to check out if you can handle it without throwing up in your mouth. One of these even gives warnings about apostate sites and how to "safeguard" your mind from the attacks of apostates (lies...all lies...)

http://www.strictlygenteel.co.uk/csoon.html

http://www.jehovah.to/

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Laughing laughing laughing

by darcy in

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wow.. so, you know i'm an active witness, very active.

hah.

and i'm not laughing at y'all, but wow, i can't believe how extensive this is.

bavman

Darcy,

If I said everything you just said to my elder Dad or any of the elders I would find myself in hot water (wait...I already am). However, your circumstances are different. You have found a way to make things work for you (at least for now). I say 'fine with that'. Also, judging by your last post (cuz I haven't read them all) you seem pretty damn cool. Too bad there aren't more like you in the borg. Actually, the way you are going about things reminds me of how I use to (I'm very laid back also). The problem is eventually they catch on to you. Maybe they will with you or maybe not. I wish you the best...

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counsel to youth

by bluebeads in

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-> no higher education...i mean what the hell is wrong with these ppl?.

i'm 19, i'm a publisher and screw that i' am going to university!!

just finished my 2nd year.

bavman

but yet 20 year olds are getting married so damn young in this organization and they are getting praised just b/c they are pioneering...give it 10 years max and more than 75% of them are either separated or are struggling and catching their asses trying to make ends meet.

Yup, that was me....STAY IN SCHOOL AND DON'T GET MARRIED! Christ...I'm beginning to sound like some old guy or sumpin'

Good job and just keep telling everyone to back off. Your doing it right.

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July 15 2006 WT - Uncleanness - disfellowshp?- details

by BluesBrother in

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hope the scans show up ok.. the article is presented as it comes, for your own assessment.

you could not make this stuff up!

bavman

Shortly before I left the borg two years ago I had a conversation with an elder who had recently returned from Patterson Bethel. He was one of the "computer nuts" at Patterson and one of the things he was assigned to do was "clean up" after certain young Bethelites who had a problem with viewing porn. He said that the elders lovingly and patiently worked with these young Bethelites to help them make progress over their problem with porn. I thought at the time this was great. The society really was patient and loving in helping in that way. I wonder now if this is still how things will be handled with those young Bethelites. How can this article be reconciled with problems even Bethelites might have? Is this talking from both sides of the mouth? Or will these young Bethelites be turned out on their heads in the near future?

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Addicted to judgmentalism

by M.J. in

here's something i got emailed to me from ptm ministries at: http://www.ptm.org/uni/resources/ptmupdate/ptmupdate.htm.

nice writeup by people who have nothing to do with the jws.

addicted to judgmentalism.

bavman

Looks like the boy traded one addiction for another.

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July 15 2006 WT - Uncleanness - disfellowshp?- details

by BluesBrother in

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hope the scans show up ok.. the article is presented as it comes, for your own assessment.

you could not make this stuff up!

bavman

Am I wrong or is the first time it has been mentioned that viewing pornography could be a disfellowshipping offense?

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I'm Famous: I Was Mentioned at the D.C.!

by bavman in

however, i was mentioned.

i was told today by a very reliable source my dad gave a talk at the latest district convention.

in it, he talked about how he 'has had to endure both his son and daughter leaving the truth.

bavman

Well,not by name exactly. However, I was mentioned. I was told today by a very reliable source my Dad gave a talk at the latest District convention. In it, he talked about how he 'has had to endure both his son and daughter leaving the truth.' Awwww....woe is me....always about you isn't it Dad? Just when I start feeling sad for my parents something like this comes up. In front of 8000 people of whom literally hundreds know me you had to say that. Looking for sympathy perhaps? Thinking it might "encourage" others who have shunned their family members to keep it up? What about my 10 year old son sitting there listening to that? Talk about driving a wedge. I always love it when he comes back from these conventions and I talk to him on the phone the next day...so much colder....or perhaps this is just the thing that could help him see how cold and insensitive you and the Watchtower "toughs" are? I know the person who told me about this reacted this way. He told me he was 'very upset' that was said...that it 'realy bothered him'. I wonder too why my Dad would say something like this when he knows my sister still believes most of the witness dogma. This will make it even harder for her to return. Not too smart in my book. But then maybe it is like it seems to be. That is, the Tower is getting stricter, tougher, and seems to be saying 'like it or leave it, for we don't give a shit'. Well, I don't give a shit either, so I left as have many others and with this kind of "compassion" going around I imagine many others will be also.

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I've had it. I want to DA myself

by White Waves in

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but i am afraid to send a letter to my old kh.

what should i write to make sure they don't just df me?

also, they refused my request to da myself before.

bavman

Hello White Waves,

I DA'd myself two years ago and I am very glad to have done so. My letter was short and sweet on a worn out old piece of notebook paper in handwriting (one of my complaints was how corporate everything had gotten and that was my slam about that). There were many benefits to this however one of these would not be yours now. That is, the announcement at the K. Hall is the same now. I was glad to have known at the time people at the hall would be hearing that I da'd MYSELF. That wouldn't be the case for you. Still, other benefits would be the fact you decided your own fate, the elders would still know you made the decision, it would give you release and power over the situation, you would be able to keep the bastards away from you. I was already being shunned by family and others as well so that didn't come into the picture at all. Those that are willing to talk to me now of that former group are only the ones that I would want to have talk to me.

I don't see how your letter could be refused. You could also send a copy to New York and let the elders know you did so. You could also join another church or the army...that's the same as Da'ing...

Take care and I hope all goes well for you....

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GRADUATION PICTURES.....

by schne_belly in

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my husband officially graduated from college this past saturday( summa cum laude, i might add .

the mascot of uiu is the peacock.

patrick & his parents.

bavman

Congrats!!!!