Bubbamar

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  Does WT have a deathwish?

  by badboy in

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  with their policies on child molesters etc etc,one does wonder if wt has a deathwish.. what do you think?

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  Bubbamar

  One can only hope!!!

  (and pray!)
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  Is disfellowshiping Scriptual

  by jaredg in

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  hey guys i need som help.

  i'm writing a letter to my family about the doubts and concerns i have of the wts and how they aren't god's source for spiritual food.

  i don't feel that disfellowshiping and shunning is scriptual, however i'm having trouble find evidence.

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  i think it is rediculous that I could be held accountable for a decision I made when I was 15, a decision more important than marriage and a decision i made b/c i was pressured by my friends, family and congregation. i wish i never got baptised and then this wouldn't even be a problem.

  That's my point exactly. I was 13 when I got baptized. We certainly would not have been allowed to leave at 13/15!!! It's not really a choice if only 1 choice is acceptable!

  I don't know the answer to your question. I do know that I am NOT one of the people mentioned in the scripture they use to justify it. I also know it is NOT loving which was what Jesus asks of us. I don't think Jesus shunned anyone - not even his friend who betrayed him.

  They like to think that what they do is scriptural - but its really only the WATCHTOWER!
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  Opinions on a letter i am sending my family

  by jaredg in

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  hey guys.

  both my mom, dad and sister have asked me to write them with my reasons and concerns for leaving the wts.

  this is what i wrote them.

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  Bubbamar

  Hi Jared

  Wow! You've done your homework!! Excellent letter!!

  From my point of view I have decided not to write a letter like that to my mom (yet) because she would have to call me an apostate and that would be so much worse than just being df'ed. If she ever asks for my reasons I think I will tell her that she doesn't want to know and that if she does she can read the same information I have read. I don't know. That's just me.

  I would just hope that your family can handle it and will be open and not mark you as an evil apostate and shun you even more harshly. Maybe its worth it to you to be able to honestly speak your mind. More power to you!!

  You really did an awesome job putting it all together and communicating with honesty and love.

  Please post the results!!!

  ((((Hugs)))
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  Let's take pictures of Kingdom Halls!

  by Nosferatu in

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  2. friends

  you know, i never had a clue why people did this.

  it's not like kingdom halls in different cities look different.

  they just have a different shape, a different shaped yard, trees in different locations, and some had that car stop thingy which stopped you from getting wet.

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  Bubbamar

  Good idea 1914! LOL
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  Why Have Memorial if...

  by Sweetp0985 in

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  no one partakes of it?

  out of the many memorials i have been to, i only recall 1 when a bethelite came to give our talk and he was of the anointed and partook of the emblems.

  but anyway i've read a post on here and heard about a person in my local area that partook of the emblems and their "anointed" status was questioned.

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  Bubbamar

  it may be incorrect but where else you gonna go?

  dancing, skydiving, 6-Flags, rollerblading, a movie, dinner, COLLEGE, shopping, home to watch Thursday night prime time TV, coffee with a friend, skiing, swimming, the gym, mountain climbing, to bed early, on a date, surf the internet, Fiji....to name just a few things.

  The black and white thinking is so sad. Too bad she has no other options than to stay in a destructive cult.
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  Well................I rang the elder.....................

  by BLISSISIGNORANCE in

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  ...............except he's no longer an elder!

  i knew he'ld been removed after my reinstatement (about 4 years ago) because he had expressed to dubs regret over the handling of my case, how i was treated, etc.

  so the big elder (po) who wanted me silenced and set up the whole jc and witnesses, had little elder removed.

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  Awesome Bliss!! My hat's off to you for protecting the ones who can't protect themselves!!

  Please keep hammering away at him!
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  Have you ever been asked by witnesses if you have the internet?

  by JH in

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  being inactive, not going to meetings, and having the internet is a nice combination.

  the last time i went to a meeting, a brother asked me if i had the internet... first of all, it was none of his buisiness, so i answered, "do you have it"?

  he said no.. i know elders who do have the internet, so what, big deal... so, it's ok for elders to have the internet and not ok for non elders to have it?.

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  THat just sickens me. OF COURSE you have the internet. EVERYONE does -- except the third world. YES and I have running water too. idiot! Its so obvious that they have secrets to keep and are worried that you might discover the "truth" and spread it around. That's so unhealthy that they would ask that. As if the internet has no other use than to spread their precious JW "apostate lies." Maybe you use it for business purposes??? Maybe to check movie times??? Or to read your horoscope....Oops. Haha

  Control freaks.
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  Watchtower Stock Speculation?

  by metatron in

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  see http://biz.yahoo.com/e/040720/hom8-k.html.

  if this link doesn't work, go to yahoo finance, go to hom stock and look at the 8-k document .. it seems to say that the wtbs of pennsylvania has entered into a private placement transaction with hom.

  heard of them doing this.

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  Bubbamar

  private placement transaction with HOM.

  What does that mean?
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  left out again

  by the mole in

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  my family had a gettogether this weekend and my and my father were not invited...my dad was so upset..i advised my dad to let it go...my sister was invited but she is another clone...my dad has finally seen the errors but the fellowship with his own kin struck deep into his soul...he is 64 now and wants to be close to his own brothers and sisters and i didnt know how to really counsel dad or talk to him..we went out to dinner but over and over he spoke his frustration of not being invited.....any suggestion for any of you current break aways to help my dad?

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  Bubbamar

  I feel your pain mole. I'm in the same boat with my mom. I haven't heard from her in 7 years. I'm in the process of writing her a letter (2 month process) - so we'll see how it goes. I don't have any advice - just empathy.
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  Why Have Memorial if...

  by Sweetp0985 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  no one partakes of it?

  out of the many memorials i have been to, i only recall 1 when a bethelite came to give our talk and he was of the anointed and partook of the emblems.

  but anyway i've read a post on here and heard about a person in my local area that partook of the emblems and their "anointed" status was questioned.

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  This is why JWs are so interested in the anointed partaker count, its a gauge for Armeggedon. 8000 to go.

  This is just speculation....but do you think the JW's would ever be like some of the other "suicide cults" and get the 8000 to do themselves in so that armageddon could come?! (and not look stupid with another failed doctrine)

  I know that's crazy - but I do believe that most would do it if the WT said to.

  But wait....is that crazy?