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  Org quoting itself to prove arguments (circular reference?)

  by indoubt in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  discussing recent earthquakes, the italian journal ?ii piccolo?

  in fact, during a period of 1,059 years (from 856 to 1914) reliable sources list only 24 major earthquakes causing 1,973,000 deaths.

  in the italian journal il piccolo, of october 8, 1978, geo malagoli observed:.

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  Hmmmm - Looks like some of the research quoting I did in college. hahaha
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  Just As A Matter Of Curiosity..........

  by hillary_step in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  just as a matter of curiosity i was wondering if any of you know of anybody who has read raymond franz' 'crisis of conscience' and who actually remained a jw?

  i have sent and lent this book to a number of people within the wts, even a co, all of whom left eventually.

  one person remained due to domestic issues, but resigned from all his duties and remains as such.

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  It is only the point of view of one man and that's all.

  What happened in Malawi/Mexico is not a "point of view." It really happened to real people. And anyone who can read about that incident and have no passionate feelings of revulsion for the WTBTS is - as someone else on this board says so well - a braindead dubby. Just my opinion.

  The 607 issue is also not a "point of view." Its called history.
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  Does Anyone Else Ever Encounter This???

  by ohiocowboy in

  1. social
  2. relationships

  i have been in a relationship for about 2-1/2 years now, and it seems that every time we have an argument or disagreement, it usually turns out to be my fault according to the other person, and my upbringing as a jw is always brought into the light, and also my depressive moods, this person knowing background of my exit from the org.

  and the feelings it has caused me.

  it feels as though they are using this as a "scapegoat", because even if that person comes home in a bad mood, or has to do something that they don't like, and an argument insues, i automatically am made the "bad guy", even though i was previously in a good mood before things started, and am reminded by this person how i must not be taking my antidepressants, or am thinking too much about my past, etc.

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  Yes Ohio - I have really bad PMS too!! (haha) In my relationship I am also the only who is ever grumpy, depressed, or whatever. My partner is patient though and doesn't throw it in my face. It is hard when I feel like I have a bizarro history compared to other "normal" people. That's also my strength though. I have survived and do my best to take care of myself so I'm not hard to put up with. I have a good friend who says, "we teach people how to treat us." Just something to think about.

  ((hugs to you))
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  APOSTAPETS!!!

  by ohiocowboy in

  1. social
  2. family

  i thought it would be neat if we could see what each others canine, feline, avian, etc.companions look like.... .

  here's my love, her name is chelsea, she is 9-1/2 years, and i have had her since she was 8 weeks old.

  she is a golden lab mix, thus i affectionately call her "mutt butt" .

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  I don' t have a pic of mine either but I'm also a PUG owner. I love my pug - he's 13 and I've had him since he was 5 weeks old. He's the best!! (he's black like my avatar).
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  Ex Music

  by Stefanie in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  because i love music so much, i wanted to start another thread on it.. what songs remind you of your ex?

  the ones you have to turn off before you... a) cry your eyes out... b) get so angry you would like to curse out loud, or... d) you dont care, you like to be reminded of your past flings.. for me it would have to be anything from seal, or hootie and the blowfish, and anything jazz.

  i dont a,b, or c, but i do get annoyed and dont like to be reminded so i switch the station.. anyone else?

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  "I think you're already leavin' - - feels like your hand is on the door.......If you're gone--- Maybe its time to come home....there's an awful lot of breathing room - but I can hardly move"

  I can't remember the artist. I had an ex play it on my voicemail and I went back for a while. Turns out it was very insincere and I should have never looked back. Now when I hear it I get angry and turn it off.
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  Just As A Matter Of Curiosity..........

  by hillary_step in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  just as a matter of curiosity i was wondering if any of you know of anybody who has read raymond franz' 'crisis of conscience' and who actually remained a jw?

  i have sent and lent this book to a number of people within the wts, even a co, all of whom left eventually.

  one person remained due to domestic issues, but resigned from all his duties and remains as such.

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  That's such a good question!! I have often wondered about sending a copy to my mom. I haven't though because I believe it wouldn't make any difference to her. I think she could read it and stay in. Either that or she would lose her mind as reality came crumbling in on her.

  The nature of a delusion is that it is a firmly held belief despite evidence to the contrary. Therefore, JW's, IMO could read it and stay.....because they are delusional.
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  There are two reasons why I'd go back to the JWs...

  by logansrun in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i was thinking about this the other day in response to the question, "am i coming back?

  " put forward by jw who called me (a former friend).

  i said that i would not answer that question since it would put her in an uncomfortable position.

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  But would anyone consider going back.........maybe to fade away again.......just to speak to their family again ? They play games with us ....so why not play games with them ?

  I have actually toyed with this idea too. But when I think it through to its logical conclusion it ends up being a non-possibility. I would have to spend hours and hours of my valuable time sitting in meetings to get reinstated. And for what?? To have the honor and privalege of associating with my mother who has rejected me and shunned me for the past 18 years. Why on earth would I would I go to any trouble at all to gain the acceptance and association of people who I have nothing in common with, who have absurd beliefs, who have abused me and hurt me, etc, etc, etc. Really it is in essence: Reason # 2 ***INSANITY*** For me, there is really NO reason to EVER go back and EVERY reason to NOT go back.
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  JW cartoon Bizarro

  by Mulan in

  1. social
  2. humour

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  i found this earlier today, all yellowed, in a drawer, probably from our jw days.

  thought i would share..

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  Thanks for the laugh!! How can I get in that program?? HAhahahaha
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  Finish this Sentence- JW's are good liars because.......

  by doodle-v in

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  because they are brainwashed into thinking that "distorting the truth" is ok in circumstance involved in defending their faith-theocratic warfare.

  they constantly lie to themselves about what kind of person they really are and deny themselves life's pleasures-hence the "double life syndrome" lie to friends at school, lie to elders, lie to people in the cong.

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  they get lots of practice.
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  According to the bible.....what were birds made of?

  by gumby in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  according to the bible, man was made from the ground.....the dirt.. do you know what "fowls" were made from?

  take your pick.. from the waters.gen.1:20-21"and god said, let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life, and fowl that may fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven.

  and god created great whales, and every living creature that moveth, which the waters brought forth abundantly, after their kind, and every winged fowl after his kind: and god saw that it was good.

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  Gumby - I love it!

  Thanks for adding proof to my theory that the bible was written by a schizophrenic!