from what i can see, it's nearly impossible to reason with a witness, even if you might consider them somewhat intelligent.
This thread is very long.
The answer to the question is obviously a unanimous "NO."
And just to add my 2Cents....I don't think 1914 matters. There will be loyal braindead dubbies no matter what. We all have the evidence of that. When I was in I had no idea what all that crap meant anyway. I just followed the rules because of threats of DFing and Armageddon.
do you think we're "damaged goods" now?
I definitely have issues/baggage. How could we not. We've been lied to, manipulated, abused, robbed of our childhood, guilted, shamed, controlled, shunned.....should I go on? It's work to recover from it all.
...dilemma?
my husband's ex-wife(a baptized jw) has been sending hateful messages with his children(a 4 and 10-year-old), whenever they come to visit us.
(i'm expecting), and she says hateful things about our unborn child to her children, and sometimes they repeat things they overhear her say about me and the baby.
should I just continue to ignore her and pretend it doesn't hurt?
Why should you have to pretend? Tell her how it makes you feel and how it effects your children.
Then punch her in the nose.
(JUST KIDDING)
Good luck
er hope you dont mind me asking but i have got to the point now where i want to read books about the wts.
(not felt able up to now).
theres quite a lot to choose from at amazon i was wondering if any one would mind telling me which books you would recommend.
CoC - Awesome read!
I'm reading Steven Hassan's book Releasing the Bonds
Very good book - good information about cults and it gives pointers on how to deal with loved ones who are in a cult.
i gave my intro and then disappeared for a month.
just not enough time these days.. anyway .
.. some of your names are self-explanatory, but some definitely have to be explained to be understood.. i'll start.
Bubba is my dog's nickname. His real name is Pugslie but he's kinda fat and lazy and loves to snooze on the couch...thus his nickname. He used to look like the pug in my avatar but now he's old and grey (and fat). Haha - gotta love him - He has NEVER shunned me!!
Mar is the first 3 letters of my name. Marla.
well as you know ive got my mom out.
the day before i went on holiday i was talking about my upcoming marrige and i mentioned that jws didnt have to marry in the past.
she wouldnt beleive me so i lent her the big penton book to prove it.
Josephus - I could almost cry happy tears for you and your mom. She must be such a courageous lady! Wow! I hope someday I have a similar story to tell about my mom.
((hugs))
for those of you who have not read this book, i encourage you to immediately obtain a copy, especially if you still don't believe that jw's are a cult.
although inactive and filled with doubts about the organization for a number of years, i truly disregarded all thoughts of it as a 'cult'.
i figured that it was simply misguided men who thought they were doing the right thing.
I know this is kind of an old thread but I just got the book and I can't put it down. I'm wondering if anyone has had any experiences with the techniques he teaches in the book? Any success stories?
I love that he says people WILL leave cults. I have told myself for a long time that my mom will NEVER leave. So I'm feeling a little hopeful. That could be a bad thing though - I'm so sick of disappointment and pain.
hazardous materials information sheet.
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Good point Dire! LMAO
do you believe the bible is the inspired word of god?
have you somehow attempted to prove this to yourself or have you just accepted it?
66 !?!?! Interesting number!
do you believe the bible is the inspired word of god?
have you somehow attempted to prove this to yourself or have you just accepted it?
Hey Des!
No, I don't really think so. I might be wrong - it sure is an enduring book. I think it was written by schizophrenics....to confusing, complicated and meaningless. What are we supposed to do with it all anyway? What's the point? If it was inspired by a loving god I think it would read more like it was intended to be read by a normal human being.
I read a book called Conversations With God. I loved it and I think god communicates that way with me. Not by telling stories that seem to be literal but logically and scientifically could never have happened. (the flood, the talking snake, Jonah and the big fish, oh - and who was that guy that god told to kill his son - but then right at the last second - said "psych - just testing you!" C'mon!!! Really god!)
Just my 2 cents worth.
Good question!
