lol Kitties - I'm so glad you liked it. It was fun teasing you. (did you believe me when I said it wasn't me?) Merry Christmas!!!!
HEY! You weren't supposed to open it till Saturday!!!
hey when the gifts start arriving let us know !!!!
it took over a month for one of my gifts to florida & 3 weeks for the gift i sent to someone in california.... ( lousy u.s.a. post ) lol.
i sent one to england it got there in 10 days???
lol Kitties - I'm so glad you liked it. It was fun teasing you. (did you believe me when I said it wasn't me?) Merry Christmas!!!!
HEY! You weren't supposed to open it till Saturday!!!
was it a problem in your congregation?
It was no problem at all for them to DF me for the decisions I made while I was drunk and loaded. They never once suggested I get some professional help. I was just a throwaway, promiscuous, drunk teenager to them.
I think overall though, in the congregation, physical and sexual abuse was a much bigger problem.
so, if you handed a jw a copy of the un report on the wtbs involvement, how do they react?
are they able to explain this away?
just curious.. red
He looked pretty suprised when I said that the witnesses in Malawi who were persecuted for not being able to join a political organisation were probably pretty bothered about it.
That's an excellent point! Too bad many in Malawi are not bothered at all because "the dead are concious of nothing at all."
Any Dub who could get through the 1995 "new light" that essentially erased "Our Creator's PROMISE" would have no problem ignoring the UN evidence. (or vice-versa -- I'm not sure which came first.)
Sad bunch of cultists.
hey when the gifts start arriving let us know !!!!
it took over a month for one of my gifts to florida & 3 weeks for the gift i sent to someone in california.... ( lousy u.s.a. post ) lol.
i sent one to england it got there in 10 days???
Don't look at me Kitties - we don't have candles in Malawi either.
it wasn't the straw that broke the camel's back.
that back had already broken.
it was more of the last nail in the coffin for my allegiance to the wts.
Heckler - great post! Great for you!!
The stupid babyfied pictures have always bugged the crap out of me. They were either way too happy and fake or way to grusome and terrifying. WTF "GB."
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if it were possible to get a jw to actually listen to us, which three good questions do you reckon might get him/her to sit down and think?
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Since the JW's supposedly live as the early Christians why don't they live as a community and put all their money, food and belonging together for equal sharing? We know that the Holy Spirit holy spirit killed Ananias for withholding a bit from the community so why do we see JW's in California driving SUV's and living in seaside mansions, while other JW's live in hut with no running water?
the details of who to send a gift to will be getting pm'd to you all either friday afternoon or saturday morning!
according to the information i've found online the last posting day for standard parcels is dec 11th for usa and december 15th for the uk/europe, so you should all have plenty of time to select and send a gift, although sending sooner rather than later is prefered.
can everyone taking part post on this thread what things they like, what their interests are etc so that the person who is buying a gift for you has some idea what to get you.
Besides, we don't have chocolate in Malawi.
the details of who to send a gift to will be getting pm'd to you all either friday afternoon or saturday morning!
according to the information i've found online the last posting day for standard parcels is dec 11th for usa and december 15th for the uk/europe, so you should all have plenty of time to select and send a gift, although sending sooner rather than later is prefered.
can everyone taking part post on this thread what things they like, what their interests are etc so that the person who is buying a gift for you has some idea what to get you.
Kitties and Horses
Hmmm
Maybe someone is pulling your leg??
I would have sent you something better than just chocolate!
my mother doesn't speak to me although she will exchange emails with me.
we actually don't communicate much, but recently i sent her a few emails detailing things are wrong with the watchtower society.
her responses are laughable... but i am still printing out articles and mailing them to her about the un scandle, she of course doesn't believe it.. but has anyone sucessfully made any headway talking to a dyed in the wool jw and made any progress?
Wow Pink - Three of us have the same mom!
The only 2 risks I see in continuing to pusue it are:
1. Your mom opens her eyes to the real truth and can't handle that she's wasted 40 years of her life and destroyed family relationships, etc and either has a mental breakdown or kills herself.
2. She decides you are an APOSTATE and shuns you totally for the rest of your life.
That's what I see as my problem when addressing my mom. I've gotten a couple of good points in but usually her defenses come up and I get a long JW rant. And I HATE those!!
I thought about telling my mom not to ever, under any circumstance, read CoC. Then maybe she would read it just to prove me wrong. But then if she read it - - I'd be back to problem #1 Above. ((sigh)). So what's a girl to do??
Good luck with yours. And if you find anything that works...PLEASE PM ME!!!
my daughter was not brought up jw.
her husband and his family are jw's.
once married, my daughter began going to studies and has now converted.
Hi Lonelymom - Welcome to JWD. Sorry you are hear on such sad terms. I can't imagine how hard it would be to discover that my daughter was a cultmember and that there was nothing I could do to change it. I would recommend reading a lot of JW information. Steven Hassan is a cult counselor and has written 2 excellent books on the subject. In Releasing the Bonds he says that as long as they are alive - its not too late. My mom joined when I was about 1or 2 years old and, even though no one else in our family was JW, I was raised strictly JW. From that point of view I would hope that you have as much of a relationship with your grandkids as your daughter will allow. Your grandkids need at least 1 sane person in their life - so that when they need to talk they know you will keep their confidence. Your grandkids will also need someone to push for a court order should they ever need a blood transfusion.
I think someone else also gave you good advice to not argue against the JW doctrine. She has been thouroughly indoctrinated to expect that from you. You might be able to get away with some innocent sounding questions by pretending to be interested. Maybe you could ask her how many religions she researched before joining this one. I doubt if she researched any. She was probably just slowly brainwashed by her new JW family.
My best to you. PLease stick around here - there are some very caring and smart people here.