Excellent job Lisa!! Your powers of instigation investigation are incredible.
The fact that he admitted that JWs are not the ONLY spokesperson organization of God on earth is somewhat surprising.
Axel
just called their media line:.
http://www.jw-media.org/contact.htm.
asked a young man named bryce where is the official press release on the cano pedophile situation.
Excellent job Lisa!! Your powers of instigation investigation are incredible.
The fact that he admitted that JWs are not the ONLY spokesperson organization of God on earth is somewhat surprising.
Axel
just called their media line:.
http://www.jw-media.org/contact.htm.
asked a young man named bryce where is the official press release on the cano pedophile situation.
LOL! uh...dont hold your breath. You are such the little instigator. I love it!
Axel
i know that sounds weird.
i am pregnant with my first child and my mom is visiting me for a few days.
i was laying on the couch taking a nap and she was sitting down and reading to my stomach.
So you woke up with your mom reading Jdub literature to your stomach.I dont think I could add anything that would enhance that visual.
Take care, recognize what kind of behaviour this really is, and make sure your kid is not exposed to that crap. I know you love your mom, but recognize this pitiable behavior for what it is.
it's the top news at http://wcbstv.com/topstories/local_story_178173758.html .
see "boy in minister sex scandal speaks to cbs.
investigators compiling mountain of evidence against suspect.
I wonder if the Watchtower Society is going to issue a public statement or remain tight lipped.
I would think they are holding their collective breath until the investigators go through the disks, memory sticks and computer hard drives. Looking at the police pictures, it looks like they have a lot to go through.
If not much more is found they'll isolate him as a bad apple...proceed with damage control and try to move on. If though, more is found, or the investigation spreads or others are implicated...I hesitate to say death knell, but it would be pretty damn close to it. Morale can only take so many hits.
Axel
well, i broke it to my super devout parents that after this i don't believe there is any reason why i should trust any 'brother' i don't know around my kids.. no way, no how!.
they had to admit this was pretty shocking and enlightening but they still ended up making excuses.
the society will soon have to drop the 'we are better than everyone else' argument for sure.
VM, I believe that is a copy of the card the authorities confiscated. Here is a link to a news video that someone else posted that shows the card.
http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=B40C0F05297C699B
Axel
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this morning the speaker was late and they had to change the wachtower study with the public talk.. the young elder introducing this, was maybe a bit nervous of this happening (although it is certainly not the first time this year), and told that the public intercourse of the wachttower study would be held first, instead of the public discourse.
Once heard a speaker ask the audience to "turn with me please to Jack Daniel chapter...verse...". Never did hear the chapter and verse.
Axel
a rumor alert indeed, but it could be related to the distribution of kingdom news no.37, "false religions end is near.".
the following is posted from e-watchman's forum.. make of it what you will, but in light of all the rhetoric about "deliverance at hand" and "independent thinking", nothing would surprise me anymore.. http://e-jehovahs-witnesses.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=1502&st=0 we posted about an announcement it was only local to our cong.
however we have found out that there is going to be an announcement sometime in september and it is supposed to be shocking.
who so desperately want it all to just END already! God almighty, let it end
JEHOVAH PLEASE JUST LET ARMAGEDDON COME!! they scream in their prayers.So yes...the R&F cling to every little possibility that might mean their misery will end...even if it means dying
lol...your description of the psychological state of the r&f jw is one of the most accurate and dead-on I've read.
Axel
do you think that jw's are integrating more into society these days or not making any progress?.
i went to a rock concert in a park on satuday night, and i saw 2 young jw's there.
their parents are jw's and the father is an elder and they go to every meeting and go out in the service regularly.. that concert was to raise money for ex-alcoholics and ex drug attics and people following therapy for this.. i've been going to that concert to raise money once a year, since over 10 years, and never saw 1 jw there in the past.. i was very surprised to see them there.
Its not so much Watchtower changing, but that their own members are changing.
I agree that this is the point. Any kind of reform, or whatever you want to call it, from the top will never come. If it is coming, its way to slow in coming for the R&F. Also, there is no one with the juice at the top to initiate that kind of change. They have created a system whereby they have landlocked themselves, and anyone who dares talk of change will find himself being shipped out with the latest batch of ex-bethelites..
On the other hand, many of the rank and file, while nodding there heads in agreement, are by there actions showing that they are much more willing to pick and choose what they are willing to swallow. They are going to college, they are not giving up the internet, some being deprived as kids themselves are enrolling there kids in ...hold your breath...the YMCA, brothers are not reaching out (and not feeling guilty about it), brothers are resigning and planting themselves in their seats (and not feeling bad about it), etc. etc. etc. The JW of today is still compliant, but still a totally different breed than what was common 20 or 30 yrs ago.
The JWs are changing, but in an unexpected way...from the bottom up.
(They will never change enough for me. The more I think about what they took the more I despise them.)
Axel
i've seen some threads here on the dcs this year but i don't remember reading about a resolution that may have been passed.
i saw this on another discussion board and have no idea if it's accurate or not.
it is posted that this occurred on sunday during the last talk.
not getting involved in chat rooms....Entertainment,
I would like to know the exact wording of the resolution, as I am sure that every line has been strategically worded. In particular, did they use the exact phrases chat rooms and entertainment? and how exactly were these words framed i.e. worldly chat rooms of just chat rooms in general?
It almost seems as if they are trying to renew their own version of a mission statement...sort of like a backhanded apology.
Axel
i met a married couple caught up in the recent bethel layoffs.
they are a fairly young couple in their mid to upper 30s, i didn't think to ask which department they worked in before being laid off.
the couple was driving cross country from new york to california, and stopping overnight at jw homes along the way.
Sounds a little disgruntled/shafted to me. I expect there will be more of the same in the future.
Axel