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  HOW LONG ............???????????

  by vitty in

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  how long did you phisically stay in the truth, after you had mentally or emotionally left?

  and how much was the reason you stayed was cos you didnt want to be wrong!

  (pride is a terrible thing).

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  vitty

  DY

  you have my sympathies.

  I have family in the truth, but we dont live near them so they dont know we dont go anymore.

  After we learn the truth earlier this year, we just couldnt physically go again, although I was willing when I visited my daughter last month

  I ve been in 20 years, I was brought up one till I was 7 or 9 then my mum fell away

  I really suffered cos I still thought it was the truth, all through `75

  Then when I was 24 I went back in, after a YEAR I knew there was something seriously wrong with the beliefs. but thought it was me, so year after year, I continued hoping in time time it would get better, it never did. I still thought it was the truth

  I felt I couldnt let my kids down, and besides now, I had brought half my family back in, mother, sisters, their children, my husband in the truth. How could I now say I had doubts, everyone has doubts sometimes, right.

  As a family we got deeper and deeper, or as they say more in the middle of the cong

  Until I came here, read a few books, I realized it wasnt me it was them

  But what a price ive paid, my daughter is still in.

  So to answer my own question, I think 19 years!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Hows that for denial
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  HOW LONG ............???????????

  by vitty in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  how long did you phisically stay in the truth, after you had mentally or emotionally left?

  and how much was the reason you stayed was cos you didnt want to be wrong!

  (pride is a terrible thing).

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  vitty

  How long did you phisically stay in the truth, after you had mentally or emotionally left?

  And how much was the reason you stayed was cos you didnt want to be WRONG! (pride is a terrible thing)
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  What is your experience as to buying Crisis of Conscience?

  by Goldminer in

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  i've read a few very interesting stories about people's experiences when they decided to purchase coc.i'd like to share mine and read yours also.. in 1999,not long after we purchased our first computer i started reading material about jw's.before long,i got really interested in the ray franz story because even up here in northern ontario,i had heard about the apostasy of 1980.in the fall of '99 my wife decide to take a college course(bucking the jw trend),and she would stay at her sister's place during the week.one day i called a christian book store to see if they could get me this book.i was very nervous,changed my name and i wouldn't give them my phone number.i told them i'd call back in a few weeks to make sure they had it before i went in to pick it up.. when the day came,i picked up my courage by two hands and took off for my 40 mile drive to get my book.the book store is located in a small shopping mall,which had me really nervous that another jw might see me going in or out of the store.i walked in the mall looking around,making sure there was nobody in sight that i knew.when i walked in the store,i had cash ready in my hands,walked up to the counter,gave my fake name and the book i was purchasing.now i just had to walk and make it to the car and i was home free.. i know buying a book isn't that hard,i do it all the time,but at that time the implicationsof having this book in my possesion was tremendous.. anyways,it's been 5 1/2 years and still nobody here knows.the book has really opened my eyes and mind to the realities of the wts.i would definitely recommend this book to everyone here who has yet to read it.it's worth the effort to acquire it and will take away your fear of the watchdollar.

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  vitty

  A few years ago I wanted to buy" The living bible"

  So I went to the christian bookstore, not before I changed into a skirt and put my pocket size bible in my bag, just in case the shop keeper wanted to witness to me .What a joke!

  Then i sneeked in and sneeked out

  I confessed to the p.o. wife what id done and she said she read that aswell

  Funnily when I started reading it, I really enjoyed it it really brought things to life, but I started questioning things to myself, so I put it away and stopped reading it IDIOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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  What is your experience as to buying Crisis of Conscience?

  by Goldminer in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

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  i've read a few very interesting stories about people's experiences when they decided to purchase coc.i'd like to share mine and read yours also.. in 1999,not long after we purchased our first computer i started reading material about jw's.before long,i got really interested in the ray franz story because even up here in northern ontario,i had heard about the apostasy of 1980.in the fall of '99 my wife decide to take a college course(bucking the jw trend),and she would stay at her sister's place during the week.one day i called a christian book store to see if they could get me this book.i was very nervous,changed my name and i wouldn't give them my phone number.i told them i'd call back in a few weeks to make sure they had it before i went in to pick it up.. when the day came,i picked up my courage by two hands and took off for my 40 mile drive to get my book.the book store is located in a small shopping mall,which had me really nervous that another jw might see me going in or out of the store.i walked in the mall looking around,making sure there was nobody in sight that i knew.when i walked in the store,i had cash ready in my hands,walked up to the counter,gave my fake name and the book i was purchasing.now i just had to walk and make it to the car and i was home free.. i know buying a book isn't that hard,i do it all the time,but at that time the implicationsof having this book in my possesion was tremendous.. anyways,it's been 5 1/2 years and still nobody here knows.the book has really opened my eyes and mind to the realities of the wts.i would definitely recommend this book to everyone here who has yet to read it.it's worth the effort to acquire it and will take away your fear of the watchdollar.

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  vitty

  About 10 years ago a brother in th hall, gave an answer in th watchtower study he said " an apostate has written a book called, a watchtower slave for 30 years, well id rather be a wt slave than a slave for satan"

  And I thought WHAT! someone has written a book! and hes out ! and he was in for 30 years!

  It was always at the back of my mind and I looked for it in the library but couldnt find it

  Then When i saw coc recomended I ordered it off amazon, I thought this was the book!

  I was shocked when I realized there are loads of books

  I thought Christian freedom book was excellent
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  arguing with a dub....or....how I learned to be apostate and love it

  by undercover in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  recently, a jw relative tried to discuss my "spiritual well-being" with me.

  i have had conversations in the past with this same relative concerning 607 vs 586/587 and 1914. no matter what i said, it went in one ear and out the other.

  it was like talking to a brick wall.

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  vitty

  I remember my husband having a discussion with non witness family member. She held up her hands and said "I give up you have all the answers" Boy were we smug until I read that this was a classic cult symptom, They say you have simple solutions for very complex questions.

  Not smug anymore

  Infact we feel really embarrist that one day well have to confess, we were WRONG
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  Asian tragedy: not the "end of the world"...

  by observador in

  1. social
  2. current

  ... as i am sure some jws will spin it.

  as i told my mother once, exagerating a little, they love when tragedies like these happen, as these seem to validate the beliefs they hold so dear.

  as tragic and sad as these events in asia are, it's not any signs of times; it's a natural ocurrence that humankind has to learn and prepare to.

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  How can you feel deep sympathy for "worldly" people dying, when you are praying for an even bigger disaster to happen. After all they`ll get get a ressurection so why bother worrying.

  But looking seriously at that tragedy, and the aftermath, how could we possibly of been so stupid to think a hand full of people could clear up after the annalation of the worlds population, oh I forgot we shouldnt ask questions like that, we have to wait on Jehovah

  But the really sickning thing is they way they will all give lip service from the platform and everyone will nod ther heads in agreement. The only genuine care will be if there were any "brothers" there

  And that will be the limit of love and care, also a Watchtower will come out Thankgod I wont have to read it
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  NOW Is The Time..

  by Englishman in

  1. jw
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  ..to plant giant vegetables!

  i occasionally plant giant vegetable seeds just for fun.

  as well as the looks of incredulity you get when you produce a 5 pound onion, a 3 foot carrot or runner beans several feet in length, they make good eating if you haven't fed them on chemical fertilisers.

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  vitty

  What do they taste like ? Do they lose any of there flavour by being so big?

  I had a friend, when I was a kid, and her dad grew extra large onions. We used to eat cheese and onion on toast for supper, ah happy memories !!!!!!
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  HAVE WE BEEN REFINED ?

  by vitty in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i remember being at an assemble a few years ago when the d.o said that 40 of us sitting there would not be in the truth next year.

  i was gripped by fear, i knew sometime, i didnt know when, that i would be one.. i was strong in the truth but i knew.

  now have we been refined "out " of the congregation was it envitable?

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  vitty

  Satanus

  I always feel ive backed the wrong horse. i said to my husband "now you watch now weve left, it will come" tongue in cheek
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  Extrem earthquake near Indonesia (8,9), thousands of dead people

  by Erich in

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  2. current

  an extrem strong earthquake happened recently in the indian ocean near island of sumatra.

  level 8,5 - 8,9. no contact to many islands and coasts anymore.

  no phone to the maledives and other touristic islands possible.

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  vitty

  This is a tragedy know one can really comprehend

  And I thank God that I will be not encouraged to explote it on field service

  Can you just imagine the pre meeting for fields service "how can we exploit the death and misery of thousands of people to place our overflowing back issues of the watchtower"

  I feel quite ashamed of how unfeeling I felt of tragedies that happened

  And how that that feeling comes back when you leave the "truth"
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  Fun Quiz: What Religion Best Suits You?

  by Sunchild in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i found this awhile ago on another message board.

  just thought i would share:.

  what religion best suits you?.

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  vitty

  I did one before I left the truth and it said I was JEWISH

  I think that is quite an accurate description of a average Dub