I was wondering about that too. It also has one for bethel tours is that an "official" advert?
Posts by vitty
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18Does anyone make any money out of the Watchtower org..?
by Qcmbr ini presume most of the peple ar eunpaid clergy but does anyone actually get paid or live a life of luxury paid for by the org?
on other words is anyone standing to make a profit by continuing this work..?
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National Average = Quotas
by zack inthe national average for publishers reporting feild service time in the untited states is just under 10 hours a month.
this has become the de facto standard for every member of the congregation.
if one fails to produce at the rate of others, he is "weak", his service is "divided", he puts the things of "this life" in "first place.".
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vitty
Thinking
I knew brothers who had lost their jobs, or became unable to work, they also increased their "time"
I knew one who said he would lead a midweek FSmeeting and within 6 months hed been made a servant
He had been in the cong 12 years before and nothing
You only have to put on a show and do the right things for 6 months and if the face fits, you can have all you want. Sick!!!!
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Gumby's Sunday Bible Study in Genesis
by gumby ingood morning boys and girls, today we shall learn of a championship wrestler in the bible named jacob.
this man was so strong he even beat jehovah in a wrestling match......can you believe that!!!!?????
this story begins shortly after jacob the wrestler tries to make up to his big tough mean redhaired brother cuz he knew his brother was mad at him for lying to their dad with the help of mom and stole his inheritance.
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New brother in here!
by defd inhey yall just wanted to say hi.
today is my 1st day here.
i hope this is a good site for jehovahs people.
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New brother in here!
by defd inhey yall just wanted to say hi.
today is my 1st day here.
i hope this is a good site for jehovahs people.
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New brother in here!
by defd inhey yall just wanted to say hi.
today is my 1st day here.
i hope this is a good site for jehovahs people.
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Youth Policy Of The WT.
by Englishman ini wonder why brooklyn doesn't lighten up on it's treatment of it's young folk.
it's almost inevitable that the majority of young folk are going to walk away from the jw's as they get older.. after all, who wants to be told whether they can dance or not, whether or not they can have a boyfriend / girlfriend, whether they should pursue an education or not?.
growing up always involves a degree of rebellion against the status quo.
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vitty
Ive been thinking about this a lot lately, but not just for youths. I mean if the society were kinder, less pressure to be at every meetings and field service surely ppl, would be happier in the congregations
Its the lack of love, being judged and the relentless pressure to do more thats turns ppl off
Rarely is it the doctrines, I mean, thinking about the new world wasnt the problem, it was knowing you werent good enough, that discourages ppl
What you dont realize, when your in, is how difficult it is to leave, when you still have family and ALL your friends who are still in the org, its not an easy discision to make.
Its like they want you to fail
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CoC and Search of Christian Freedom came yesterday in the mail
by ithinkisee intime to swallow the red pill.. right now both books remain unopened - sealed in the amazon.com box buried in a backpack in the trunk of my car.
i feel like i'm smuggling drugs or something.. i'll be starting coc tomorrow ... .
this is more of a vanity post than anything.
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vitty
At the moment mine it tucked safely at the back of my wardrobe, Just in case we have unexpected visitors.
My biggest problem is the computer. If someone types www. j the scroll bar goes crazy with this site and weve tried to get rid of the history, but it still comes up. Any ideas
When I was a child I used to play being in the 2nd world war (and yes I am a girl) we used to play hiding from the Germans and being a double agent. Never in my wildest dreams did I think I would be doing something like this for real as a grown woman,
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JW's at my door tommorow!
by zev inyep, they were here yesterday, and gwen asked them to come back saturday at 10.. .
i've ben waiting for an oportunity to "reverse witness" to them for 3 years now, and i have a chance to do something good here.. .
where do i start?.
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vitty
I would start with Jesus not being our mediator, unbelievebly most JWs think he is. I know I did and I had studied that watchtower, it didnt sink in until I read about it on freeminds, and looked up the watchtower again and saw that Jehovah is my "grand father" thier words. I was absorlutly shocked!!!
Im sorry I dont know which watchtower it was in now, but if that doesnt make them think, I dont know what will
If you go straight into 607 you might put them on the defensive and I dont think most dubs care about dates anyway
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Wanting to leave JWs & Spouse problems
by doinmypart inare you trying to fade or otherwise distance yourself from the org, but have a spouse that is a loyal jw?
on various posts i read about some that are staying in the org, or having a difficult time because their spouse doesn't understand the change.
i'll begin...my wife doesn't understand how i can turn my back on all the good things i've gotten from the org.
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vitty
From a wifes point of view.
When my husband wanted out, I nearly flipped, I hated him for what he was doing to me and the family. He was a servant, did visiting talks, was on the builds, baptism you name it he was doing it. Then he got a feeling that they where going to ask him to be a elder, he really started concidering what this meant.
We as a family where under a lotof pressure with meetings, field service and he had a "proper" job, you know how it goes.
Anyway he wanted to step down as a servant,I pleaded with him not to but he did, from that moment on it happened as I expected. Everyones attitude changed towards us, I coulnt believe it, anyway he kept going for me, but by this time he had serious doubts it was the truth.
Anyway to cut a long story short and a couple of really bad years, I found this site myself and I have never looked back we have both stopped going to meetings for about 9 months now
I cant tell you how happy we are now, with neither of us trying to do the "right" thing are now just ourselves. So please dont give up on her, tell her you love her and dont make her have to defend the org and maybe one day she will see for herself