Posts by TallTexan

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My Sercuit Overseer is a JERK!

by stillAwitness in

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well my sercuit overseer visit was this week and this guy is a real a-hole.

apparently our mic handlers are pretty slow.

they always take forever to give the mic to the hand-raiser and sometimes even forget to turn the stupid things on first.

TallTexan

I wonder if I could get on common ground with him so as to anti- witness to him?

You'd probably have better luck getting Al Sharpton to a Klan rally.....

23

I want to say...

by robhic in

i have been reading this forum for a couple of years now and i know this point has been made before but i truly think it needs to be repeated.

i am not, nor ever was, a jw and only arrived here to acquaint myself with "jw-ism" because a friend had joined up.

i needed to study up on stuff so i'd be prepared to (try to) understand where she was coming from with all her new oddball dogmas.

I want to second what you said. I am constantly blown away by the knowledge, the cohesive and well thought out posts, and the thoughtful replies by a number of members. Blondie either has a photographic memory or the best database search tool for the quotes she comes up with. Great stuff.

In response to your thought about how intelligent people could come in the 'truth....

In some cases JW-ism appeal to intelligence because of it's emphasis on 'Bible' study. Even though it's primarily the publications, sometimes intelligent people get so caught up in memorizing dates and absorbing all the Society's deep (but bogus) thinking and convoluted reasonings that they miss the point of it being implausible. You get caught up in the "We know something no one else knows" and so it appeals to the egos that sometimes accompany intelligence. People in general revel in knowing a 'secret'. You generally blow off those that disagree with you as "uninformed" and "lacking an ability to understand the deeper things".This fuels many intellectuals, even in the academic world. Some of them have really dumb ideas, but they strongly believe in them and ignore criticism as the 'disbelief of the ignorant'.

One interesting thing I've noticed. Many times people I know who have 'fallen away' are those who studied the most, who understood things on a very deep level. It's typically those people who, after a time, begin to put two and two together and come up with five, then realize that a lot of it doesn't make sense. Yet the comment made is "I can't believe so and so is inactive/apostate/da'd because they knew SO much about the truth." The people making those comments don't realize that is why that person is inactive/apostate - because they DO know so much about the truth.

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What will be the next big 'new light'?

by yaddayadda in

it's been a while since the watchtower overlords made any serious doctrinal changes.

wts 'new light' seems to be somewhat cyclical, around every ten years or so.

it's been just over 10 years since the 1995 'this generation' change.

TallTexan

So, while our calculation of the end of the gentile time was based on the best secular and biblical dates avalible at the time it would appear that 1914, though a monumentous year in human history, was not the year that hearalded the beginning of Christ's reign. (You can tell this is from bethel because of the long ass sentance)
Does this mean we are not living in the last days? Certainly not! Our next article will discuss our better understanding of the end of the gentile times and show just how deep in "The Last Days" we really are.

IP SEC, were you ever a Bethel writer? This is great. Maybe they'll use this paragraph in the article when it does come out.

I was talking to a good friend last night who, although not believing, still attends some meetings (for various reasons) and he thinks that with the recent information on elders needing to be 'loving' in reinstatement, that it will be that. I thought maybe they would do away with df'ing altogether, but more likely it will be a 'cap' on the length of time a repentant person must be df'd.

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Am I a JW or not? Year of Baptisim and year of falling away.

by truth about the last days in

i put this page on just to know how many jws there are on this site.

i am sure that we all will be intrested to know as to who stands where.

i am only requesting if we are a jw or not, the year we got baptized and the year that we decided to leave.

TallTexan

I was born into the "TRUTH" as you like to call it. I was baptized in 1982 (or 83 - I honestly don't remember) when I was 13 at the circuit assembly in Port Lavaca, Texas (for you Bethel-type spies - come find me)

I was regularly active until 1989, then in alternate states of inactivity or attempting to be the 'perfect' witness until about 2000. Tried one more time for about 3 months in 2001 and finally gave up when I realized it was not the Truth. My real awakening came in 2005 when I found freeminds.org and this forum. Suddenly all the things I had doubts about for years I realized were indeed bogus. I've never felt more free or more at peace.

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Am I a JW or not? Year of Baptisim and year of falling away.

by truth about the last days in

i put this page on just to know how many jws there are on this site.

i am sure that we all will be intrested to know as to who stands where.

i am only requesting if we are a jw or not, the year we got baptized and the year that we decided to leave.

TallTexan

baptized in water in 66, baptized in fire at Bethel 74-77, officially resigned in 82 but was illegally disfellowshipped afterwards unbeknowsnt to me.

Nice of them. What took you so long to come to the boards?? Welcome.

I guess you were there during the 'shake-up'.....

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Circuit Overseer Pensions and the Implications

by AlanF in

i just learned that the watchtower society has instituted a pension plan of sorts for circuit overseers.

this is a big change.. previous to this new plan, the various kinds of "traveling overseers" were pretty much on their own when they retired from the traveling work.

in a few cases, such men were invited to live out their lives in bethel, but in most cases they simply went back to being normal rank and file members who had to fend for themselves financially.. i can only speculate that the reason for this change was that the society has been having difficulty getting elders to become circuit overseers.

TallTexan

If I remember correctly, while growing up, my parents contributed to the CO via the 'green handshake'. I love that btw...that's funny. We had a small cong (about 50 pub at its max), so if every family head gave even $20, that's several hundred - and I know most gave more than that. Add meals and incidental work like doing laundry, repairing clothing, etc, and they made out pretty well.

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"Ways to Mention the Donation Arrangement" Plus: Did you keep it instead?

by stillAwitness in

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taken from january 2006 km:

donation today toward our worldwide.

worldwide work.

TallTexan

I never heard a JW ask for a donation except for demonstrations on the platform.

I heard very few. I know I personally never did unless they would ask how much the publications were. The funny thing is that I always got more than what we had been selling them for previously. Oh, and I never put it in the contribution box, because I was paying for the literature out of my pocket. I considered it a consignment deal - I'd pay up front and then get reimbursed. Even I was smart enough to see through the 'get paid twice for the same piece of literature' ploy.....

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Anyone here have access to deer meat or sausage?

by Elsewhere in

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i haven't had access to deer meat for awhile and i'm hoping to find another source.

i'm hoping one of you might like to go deer hunting, or might know someone who does.. thanks!

TallTexan

Hey dude,

A friend that I work with hooks me up w/ all the venison sausage I can eat. If you're going to the aposta-crawfishboil in May, I can bring some to you then. If not, then maybe some alternate means of transportation.....

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Comments You Will Not Hear at the 1-22-06 WT Study (Obey)

by blondie in

whom do you obey - god or men?.

2006 year's text--obey god as ruler rather than men.

(a) when ordered to stop preaching, how did peter and john respond?

TallTexan

By reading the context, we see that is NOT what he meant. H e was referring to the preaching about Jesus who is not even mentioned here.

Blindersoff,

As you well know, they are infamous for inserting "jehovah" where the scripture, when read in context, is clearly discussing Jesus.

Blondie,

Great review as always. Keep it up.

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607BCE or 587/586BCE explained

by truth about the last days in

hello all to all my brothers of the faith.

i have some information in relation to the dates 607bce and 587/586bce, with the simple explanation of the 70years exile.

the wt still sticks with the 607bce due to the fact that the governing bodys explains that the jews returned back at about 537bce, assuming that they were finished with their bondage.

TallTexan

I DID NOT COPY AND PASTE THAT INFORMATION FROM ANYTHING THE WATCHTOWER HAVE PUBLISHED.WERE DID YOU GET THAT FROM?

Well, we KNEW you copied and pasted it from SOMEWHERE, because it had correct grammar, correct spelling, correct punctuation and sentence structure. Therefore we KNEW you did not write it.....