Posts by dorayakii

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A Riddle - Somthing Mentioned in Genesis, but God did not create it!

by VM44 in

here is a riddle.

i am thinking of something that god did not create, but is mentioned in the book of genesis and also throughout the bible.. what could it be?.

--vm44.

dorayakii

One viewpoint here:
http://www.christiananswers.net/bible/isa45.html
Not sure of the validity as I am not that well versed in Hebrew-English translations.
Isaiah 45:7 - What does it mean? The word translated "evil" here is the Hebrew word ra'. A better translation in modern English is "calamity" or "disaster" or "woe," as this word is translated in this verse in more recent translations. Dr. Henry Morris points out: "God did not create light, for He is light. It was the primeval darkness which He created in order to have a division between day and night. 'Evil,' as used here, refers to evil of a physical nature (storms), not moral evil." See other uses of the words "light" and "evil" in the Bible: Gen. 1:4; Exo. 10:22; 31:2; Lam. 3:38.

Neither am I versed in such translations, but the hypothesis Dr. Henry Morris puts forth here seems quite bogus. He says:

"God did not create light, for He is light. It was the primeval darkness which He created in order to have a division between day and night."

So could this mean that God did not create good, He IS good, and that He created evil to make a division between good and evil? He cannot have it both ways... He also says:

"'Evil,' as used here, refers to evil of a physical nature (storms), not moral evil."

Well the context certainly allows for this, because Isaiah 45 talks about the heavens, sun etc... Still, that does not change the fact that the concept of God has evolved since that time. elSatan at one point was merely an arm of YHWH, so it it quite possible that the "evil" here refers to moral evil and not physical evil.

Strong's entry under the word Ra' allows several translations including evil, distress, misery, injury, wickedness, calamity, wrong, adversity, unkindness, hurtfulness, unpleasentness, malignancy, pain... do these sound like the works of an "omnibenevolent" God?

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Are you still alive??? Please report!!!

by zagor in

because according to this guy today a third of us would no longer be around today!.

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http://www.yisraylhawkins.com/.

dorayakii

A list of excuses Mr. Hawkins can use when the world doesn't end on 9/12/06:
[feel free to add yours]

Sorry I just realised that there was no year zero... the nuclear war will be next year... DAMN

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Are you still alive??? Please report!!!

by zagor in

because according to this guy today a third of us would no longer be around today!.

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http://www.yisraylhawkins.com/.

dorayakii

A list of excuses Mr. Hawkins can use when the world doesn't end on 9/12/06:
[feel free to add yours]

There really was a war, but it was an invisible nuclear war... in heaven.

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WHERE DID POST -FLOOD VEGETATION COME FROM?

by badboy in

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its occurs to one that the floof would have destroyed virtually all vegetation,so where does wt say post flood vegetation come from?

dorayakii

Didn't you know, that the absence of Post-Deluvian vegetation is the reason why Jehovah-God (TM) allowed Noah and his family to eat meat?

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What's the best Martial Art to take up??

by dorayakii in

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i'm thinkinf of taking up kendo...... but lots of people have been advising karate, taekwondo, jujitsu, judo and aikido to me.... does anyone on this board do any of the oriental martial arts?

any suggestions on the benefits and disadvantages of the martial arts?

dorayakii

I'm thinkinf of taking up Kendo...... but lots of people have been advising Karate, Taekwondo, Jujitsu, Judo and Aikido to me...

Does anyone on this board do any of the Oriental Martial Arts?

Any suggestions on the benefits and disadvantages of the martial arts?

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Is John Travolta gay?

by dorayakii in

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/showbiz/showbiznews.html?in_article_id=404299&in_page_id=1773&in_a_source=.

well i thought travolta was married with children, but that doesnt always mean anything these days.

is travolta gay or bisexual?

dorayakii

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/showbiz/showbiznews.html?in_article_id=404299&in_page_id=1773&in_a_source=

Well i thought Travolta was married with children, but that doesnt always mean anything these days.

So what do you think? Is Travolta gay or bisexual?

Is this picture a fake or doctored?

Or is this just an innocent kiss for a good mate. (Women do it, why can't we??)

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What top sientist say about 9/11

by jimbo in

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interesting or not?

use your free thinking.

p;ease reply... .. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=403757&in_page_id=1770 .

dorayakii

I don't have much faith in the US-administration, nor in the extremist Muslim groups, because both are hypocritical fundamentalists.

I'm not going to believe in any conspiracy unless the evidence is presented to me, but in the same breath, I don't believe the US administration to the the victims that they portray themselves to be. Even if it wasn't a conspiracy, they've still jumped on the band wagon to profit extensively from these attacks. Their excuse for getting rid of Saddam and setting up democracy doesn't hold water with me, otherwise, Kim-Il-Sung and Kim-Jong-Il of North Korea would have been disposed of years ago. They've manipulated the term "Islamic extremists" to make it synonimous with the word "terrorists" when the world simply doesn't work in such a black and white fashion.

Although I have always thought the present US-Administration is capable of such a deed, until the proof is released i will have to remain neutral on the issue.

For those who believe in the conspiracy, please hold your judgement until it is proven, until you can prove it... and for those who categorically deny a conspiracy, try not to have too much confidence in your leaders, try to have an open mind about these strangers who run your life are capable of. Many of us once had such a blind confidence in our Watchtower leaders, we would argue til Kingdom come about things we thought they were incapable of doing. Yet, they were capable, and they used that capability to the full. Only the ignorant person can have complete trust in the righteousness of his own government.

Remember, over-the-top trust and ignorance is what led to Hitler being elected democratically in Germany in 1933.

The leaders are there to serve us, and not for us to serve them... Never believe something until it is proven in front of you.

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Why did God create mosquitoes?

by JH in

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i tried to finish mowing the lawn this morning and just couldn't.. there were about 775 mosquitoes around me .

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dorayakii

Im sure the chickens often ask themselves the same question about us!

But according to the JWs, the animals were meant to serve US, not the other way around. Therefore the chickens don't have a leg to stand on if they try to argue this point. Both the chickens and the mosquitoes are to be in subjection to US. * Maniacal laugh *

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JWs celebrating their 40th birthday?

by M.J. in

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i heard that its common for jws in a certain congregation to make a big deal when someone turns 40--to the point that they actually throw a party.. is this something that happens out there?.

i just thought it sounded pretty odd.

dorayakii

I don't know about 40th birthdays, but I was given a birthday card and present for my 21st birthday, by a very faithful and long-standing pioneer sister... right in the middle of the hall, and no-one batted an eyelid... apart from me, I was shocked, lol

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The Challange of Faith

by truth_be_told in

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i stumbled on this site dong some research, i post now only for those you have not sinned against jehovah's holy spirit, since only jehovah knows this, some value might be taken form this.

i currently serve as the service overseer in my congregation, i have been an elder for over 10 years.. the fundmental issue that challanges every jw faith at some point are the imperfections of the wtbs, & those that take the lead sometimes make huge errors.

as a third generation jw with a huge network of elders, i have heard many bad things about those that take the lead.. some of these have effected myself and my family, this is the test, no different than what job faced, but it is more on the emotional and mental level.

dorayakii

You can 't survive as a JW if you can't chalk these things up to imperfection and move on, no matter how devasting they might be.

Well, you can't survive as a Catholic if you don't chalk their faults up to imperfection and move on either. The problem is that it is simply not ethical to put the malhandling of paedophilia, or the false 607 doctrine, or the Watchtower's "prostitution" with the UN, or the unnecessary and damaging blood doctrine, all down to "human imperfection".

Don't try to give me a sop story about how the percentage of correct doctrines that the Watchtower teaches in comparison with the Catholic Church emancipates the Watchtower from culpability. No matter how many "true-teachings" are taught, this does not in any way excuse that type of behaviour: Two wrongs don't make a right and the publishers should not be expected to "do as I say, not as I do"...

...don't tell me that the only real Christian love is to be found among JWs... loving people are found in other Churches and among atheists.... and there are some really horrible individuals in the WT Organisation, as well as in the "world"... that arguement doesn't hold water either...

...and please don't tell me that the Catholic Church and the Watchtower Organisation are fundamentally different, or to be viewed differently. This is a kind of double standard, when these things are commited by the Catholics, they are denounced as the evil harlot of Babylon from whom we should "get out". However, when the Watchtower commits these things, we are expected to call it "human imperfection" and move on. This is hypocrisy and I'm afraid it is just not on.