Good topic.
I sincerely wish all you headstrong, gung-ho American patriots would do a little research on your current president and his family.
You really think any of this is about Bush & Co. and their "care for the people?" Give me a freakin BREAK. That family is ONLY concerned about MONEY and POWER. What does it take for people to realize how corrupt they are? Just as we've all seen and experienced the deciet and lies by the Borg, can you not see it amongst your own government as well? It's even more plain to see! The Bush family has business ties to large oil and arms companies - doesn't take a genius to figure out how to use the power of being President to manipulate world affairs to their personal monetary benefit.
Why do you continue to believe it all? Does it not bother you that they control everything we read and see in the papers and on TV? Can you not see how that power can be misused and IS being misused to their monetary benefit?
Let me spell it out for you:
THEY USE THE MEDIA TO PROGRAM AMERICANS MINDS THAT THE REASON FOR GOING TO WAR WITH IRAQ IS BECAUSE OF THE THREAT OF HUSSEIN (WHICH, WHILE IT IS A THREAT, IT IS NOT THE REAL REASON FOR THE WAR) SO THAT THEY PUT MORE MONEY IN THEIR POCKETS BY THE INCREASE IN ARMS SALES (AS A RESULT OF WAR) AND A FIRMER POSITION IN THE ATTAINMENT OF OIL IN THE MIDDLE EAST.
That's the bottom line folks. That IS what's happening, and there's plenty of evidence to support it. Why we continue to allow this to happen is due to the people's inability to see through the lines and their backboneless ability to believe everything Dan Rather says. This government is corrupt to the CORE. Politics, religion, the CIA and FBI, the military, police forces, the media and greedy corporations are all tied together in corrupt, devious, scheming, money-making practices and deeds - a list that goes back hundreds of years and would take thousands of pages to relate.
They test chemicals on us, we wonder why everyone seems to have a "cold" lately. ("Our government would NEVER do such a thing" says the American people).
The DEA and police purposely wait until marijuana crops are at a time of harvesting before they raid the growers and take all of the crop. This happens time after time - this is not an isolated case whatsoever. They discourage the use of drugs, but they don't see anything wrong with benifiting monetarily from the profits of it.
They purposely put highly addictive amounts of nicotine in cigarettes so that people will become addicted to them quicker and easier, so that their companies can make even more of a profit. Yeah, here's a government that really cares about us and our "innocent lives." We're expendable.
Not to say there aren't a lot of government/military/political officals that are genuinely concerned about the welfare of the American population because there are a ton of them. Unfortunately they are being deceived as well, and those that attempt to unveal truths and evidence are tragically killed in auto wrecks or are reported "missing." It happens people - WAKE UP.
The average witness doesn't challenge what the GB tells them, and that's why there are so many brain-washed members that believe that something so obviously Holy and God-inspired could NEVER be wrong - they could never mislead people or lie to them outright. We know better don't we.
The average American believes everything they read in the local paper and see on CNN and other major news networks without challenging it and researching. Besides, our government would never mislead us or lie to us, because our safety is by far more important to them than anything money or power could offer. I hope we know better than this.
WAKE UP PEOPLE!!!!!
The Bush administration doesn't give a rats ass about the rights of any of us - they paint a pretty picture so that they can get the support they need to further their hidden agenda - total control of the world economy. For THEIR benefit. If you want to fight for their corrupt cause, go ahead. Join the army and go fire some missiles at Iraq. Send your kids and friends to war to put more money in George's pocket. Believe what you want to, but at least challenge everything you currently believe just as you did while you were a Witness. If you want to overlook the evidence just because you feel bound to patriotism for this great country, than do so, but realize there are other citizens that are able to perceive the bigger picture, and that's what prevents them from being so dedicated to a country as you do.
I still fail to see the reasoning behind what relevance the fact that many people want to get into this country has to do with anything. Just because they are trying to get here means...what? This is best place to live? There are a ton of countries that people are trying to get into, and most of the time it is for logistical purposes - U.S. is more prosperous than Mexico (a bordering country), so a lot of Mexicans come here. Spain is more prosperous than Africa (a neighboring country), so they have a lot of Africans trying to get there. Not one person on this board that lives in America can say they don't feel lucky when they see ads of African children starving, or Iraqi children dying from curable diseases, or women in Afghanistan being beaten, etc. etc. etc. But just because our reality is a lot different than other countries does not give me any incentive whatsoever to blindly follow every word, idea and policy the government says. There is no connection whatsoever, and it amazes me that some people continually fall back on this type of reasoning to justify their reason for pledging their allegiance to this corrupt system.
I pay my taxes and I actually voted, but don't ask me to believe in this country. I don't see "AMERICA" - I see land to live on habitated by a lot of narrow-minded, greedy individuals as citizens (this a generalization which obviously doesn't include the enlighted bunch of Americans). Yes, tons of people fought for my right to live here, but I can damn well live anywhere I want to if I put my mind to it. And there's tons of other places I feel would be a nicer, more culturally balanced areas to live in this world. I find it very interesting how the American's on this board are the only ones that show the "America or die" attitude - other people from other countries are not saying "You know personally I don't think all of the people of Asia, Africa, and the Middle East are worth one American life." Iwasyoungonce, I find that statement completely unacceptable and wonder what type of mentality you have - what do you say to yourself to justify such a statement?? What the hell have you done that makes you so better than millions of people from other countries, thousands of which are smarter and more intelligent than yourself? What have they done to you so that you feel that the life of another person from America is more valuable than the life of someone from Japan? I beg you to help all of us understand this, but as usual, it's easier for someone in this predicament to crawl under a rock, for there is no justifiable answer IMO.
The more and more I learn about American history the more I relate to Zach and Rage Against the Machine. If only people understood more clearly the issues they presented in their music - they sing a long with the music without understanding the message. Something needs to be done - I hate seeing people played like puppets like this.
USA not a bully? Just look at the bully-like comments from a few of it's citizens on this board - there's your answer.
LB wrote:
Yep what bullies we are. Imagine a world without the USA. It would just be peaceful and loving, a paradise for all to enjoy.
Laughable
"Yeah, without us your world would be even worse, so shut up and stop complaining. neener neener"
Aojumper wrote:
My question for all of you who post that the U.S. are bullies, which country do you want to live in? Pick one. Are there better countries? No not really, there may be a better fit though for different people, but there are always trade offs, there is no eutopia. Nor will there ever be one on earth. No matter how much the Watchtower insists it's coming.
"Our country is better than yours, our country is better than yours....and it always will...and it always will..nanny-nanny boo boo..."
Are there better countries? What ARE you smoking?? (must be some WHACK *&$% man) Never ceases to amaze me how so many people obviously think that people in other countries don't enjoy their freedoms and their cultures just as much as we do. After all, not every country other than America is communist, and not every country is plagued w/ starvation like Africa. <insert common sense> Hello - stray outside your town limits and try visiting areas like Holland, France, Switzerland, Australia, New Zealand, Brazil, Spain, Greece, Italy, and you will find beautiful people with beautiful families, wonderful cultures amongst the most breathtaking terrains - a lot better than Kansas, my friend. Just because you think your town is the best place in the world to live doesn't mean everyone else feels that way. Personally, if this is the common viewpoint of the folks in your area, please let me know where it is. SO I CAN STAY AWAY. Before making such a statement, it would be wise to establish your definition of "better."
I can't believe I feel so strongly about this subject - I've devoted at least an hour to this response. Holy Cow.
Happy New Year everyone!
peace and respect,
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