Posts by Pole

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The 1914 Doctrine and The Threat of the Egibi Business Tablets

by VM44 in

could the watchtower and the jehovah's witnesses survive the discarding of their 1914 doctrine?

the doctrine that in 1914 the end of the gentile times took place, jesus took up rule in heaven.

for some reason the jws think the outbreak of world war i in 1914 is proof their prophetic calculations were correct.

Pole

AlmostAtheist,

:Read the Watchtowers from the 1950's and compare them to now. The old ones were very thoughtful, insightful. Maybe they were wrong, but they said SOMETHING. The new ones are fluff and stuff and feel-good crap. Nobody seems to care.

True. These days there are no "celebrated WTS scholars" with Freddie's or Charles's delusional audacity allowing them to pull complete utter cr*p out of their asses and present it in WT articles as the "anti-typical" truth received.

The post of chief WTS theologian seems to have been up for grabs since 1992.

Pole

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Okay, I got a Kingdom Interlinear Translation Bible.... Now what?

by hubert in

well, i was going to add to this, but hit the wrong button.

(duh)

so, how do i find nwt comparisons that are not exact changes in it?

Pole

: Jesus likely spoke in Aramaic.
LOL. I just love those arguments. Sorry.. back to the topic...
Pole

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The public are panic buying fuel in UK

by ballistic in

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after a threat by protestors to blockade fuel distribution depots, people are panic buying fuel, causing some stations to run out and close, even though there is no underlying shortage.

this is like a self-fullfilling prophecy in which the more it gets reported on the news, the more people go out and panic buy.. *** have i just contributed to the chaos by posting this, hmmmm ***

Pole

From what I know reducing the amount of oil used in Europe won't help much if China and India continue developing at the current rate. All we can do is stagnate our economies and give them an additional advantage. Of course "the West" has been using huge amounts of oil so far without giving a rat's ass about it.

It's like the situation with rain forests with coutries which have already destroyed them exerting pressure on the developing countries to start thinking about the global ecosystem and using their own resources wisely. LOL.

Pole

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Does anyone who Left Jehovahs Organization, still......

by defd in

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read the bible daily?

honestly do you?

or is it collecting dust on a table or shelf somewhere?

Pole

defd,
How long have you been beating your wife?
Pole of the "demonstrating implicature in the question" class

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WATCHTOWER PUBLICLY ADMITS HUMAN OPINION AND NOT GOD'S SPIRIT

by Terry in

can any christian imagine jesus christ taking the pharisees to court and complaining to the sanhedrin:

"stop these men from quoting me accurately--it is embarassing!"?

the pharisees twisted words for their own benefit and opposed jesus publicly for exposing their errors as errors of men spouting human opinion and passing it off as god's authority.

Pole

Good piece Terry.

:I give blanket permission for reprinting my writing to any who will quote it entirely and not edit.

You mean you won't sue us for $100,000?

Pole

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My First Apostate Vacation -- Surfing and Dope and Counter-Culture

by tetrapod.sapien in

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well, it's been almost a year since i have been out of the borg "mentally".

and almost 6 months since officially da'ing myself and stepping away from friendships that i had worked at for a decade.

actually, they stepped away from me, but whatever.. it's been a heady year for me.

Pole

Hey Tetrus Apostata. Good for ya.

If you ever plan to arrange an apostate excursion like that somewhere in Eastern Europe, let me know. I'm not sure about surfing in the Baltic (maybe - mini-surfing lol), but all the other attractions you mentioned and more are available here.

Pole

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"The Very Hairs of Your Head"

by 5thGeneration in

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as a current active publisher i still have to be fascinated by some wt study articles.. for example last week:.

"...but the very hairs of your head are all numbered.

10:29,30. wt reads:.

Pole

:We all lose thousands of hairs a day but Jehovah is preoccupied by literally counting them all?

Yes, he is so preoccupied with literally counting the number of hairs of his loyal servants, that he sometimes loses track of the number of new cancer cells some of his servants happen to have. Therefore some of Jehovah's servants end up developing cancer. Still, they should rest assured that Jehovah is taking care of everything he can. It is also possible that sometimes it is one of Jehovah's angels and not Jehovah himself that either screws the job up or is temporarily prevented from fulfilling his duties by a demon angel. (Daniel 10:12-14)

Pole

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Criticisim

by 5thGeneration in

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i have to say that generally the criticism on this board toward jws is over the top.. i personally have huge problems with the 'truth' right now in my life but i notice the ones who have literally nothing good to say about anything.. there are a lot of good witnesses and a lot of good doctrine and a lot of good motives among jws.. criticism fine, but jesus commended when due.. .

Pole

:I have to say that generally the criticism on this board toward JWs is over the top.

Be specific or think twice before starting a new topic. At that level of generality you can argue anything you like without being held accountable.

Can you give specific examples, so that we can agree or disagree?

Pole

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QUOTES and "Breach of contract"

by hamsterbait in

in the writ just served on quotes, one item seems to stand out.. if they claim that as a baptized dub, when he left he was in breach by quoting their literature, does this tell us that the new baptism vows mean that the candidate has entered into a contract in association with the organization?

after all contractual partners in business are referred to as "associates".

if this is the case the legal ramifications are interesting.. .

Pole

I have just noticed something interesting:

WATCH TOWER DOES NOT WARRANT THAT THE DATA IS IDENTICAL TO WATCH TOWER'S PUBLICATIONS.

That would explain the doctrinal adjustmenst(s) made to the electronic version of their publications.

Pole

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QUOTES and "Breach of contract"

by hamsterbait in

in the writ just served on quotes, one item seems to stand out.. if they claim that as a baptized dub, when he left he was in breach by quoting their literature, does this tell us that the new baptism vows mean that the candidate has entered into a contract in association with the organization?

after all contractual partners in business are referred to as "associates".

if this is the case the legal ramifications are interesting.. .

Pole

This is from the 2004 one:

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