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  Is the Watchtower unintentintionally breeding "false" witnesses

  by XQsThaiPoes in

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  i noticed that at least in my area the jws are morraly corrupt.

  now this is not traditional corruption where i bend the rules out of greed for power or money.

  this is the total lack of moral judgement, or as the watchtower calls it "a bible trained conscience".

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  Pole

  This is the total lack of moral judgement, or as the watchtower calls it "a bible trained conscience".

  One of the best definitions of JW morality I've ever seen. Jws are morally disabled. Almost every moral aspect of their lives is predefined in thousands of detailed rules published by WTS. They're only left with a few petty choices which give them the impression of moral freedom. Life is easy when someone else does the thinking for you. But as you rightly point out when you lose your own morality, you are immoral, no matter what you replace it with.

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  Celebrating Wedding Anniversaries

  by steve2 in

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  does anyone know the history of celebrating wedding anniversaries within

  the watchtower society (i.e.

  in celebration of wedding anniversaries.

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  Pole

  Hi steve.
  
  At least in some European countries JWs also attach a lot of pomp and circumstance to wedding anniversaries.
  
  I guess that's how they make up for missing out on birthday parties. Of course their argumentation is only meant to appease their "Christian consciences".
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  New KM, With New Procedures!

  by Doubtfully Yours in

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  in the newest kingdom ministry publication comes the information of how they're combining the 'no blood' card and the 'health proxy' document into only one card.. the card will have pertinent information according to the region where the person lives.

  publishers will only need to change this card if personal information changes, otherwise one can keep the card forever instead of the nonsense of having to fill one out at the beginning of each year.. the wtbts sure is simplifying matters as time goes by.

  good!!!

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  Can anyone tell me what sort of directives the American version of the Health Proxy document contained? The one we had in Poland was a legal joke - it was more or less a direct translation with little regard for Polish law. They finally had to reedit it.
  
  This health proxy thing (at least in the Polish version) is the epitome of the WTS inclination not only to control their members' lives but their deaths too.
  
  Also by combining the blood cards with the health proxy they create the impression that witnesses are generally health aware people and that the blood issue is just one of the many arrangements they make acting on their own will and not cult programming.
  
  Pole
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  Another Elder Called My Mom To Find Out About Us.....

  by minimus in

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  he called for her "time" and then began asking questions.

  he wanted to know where my daughter lived, what her married last name was now, how the family was doing, etc.

  he asked her if she thought my not attending anymore had to do with the fact that i had a business and now i'm "materialistic".

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  Police officers? Yes. But remember - they have plastic guns! They only look real but they're fake!!!
  
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  What happens when 144K all die?

  by M.J. in

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  sorry for my ignorance but,.

  what is the wts's stance on the dying out "anointed class"?

  don't they comprise the "faithful, discreet slave"?

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  Nosferatu,

  You should like these quotes then:

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  w01 1/15 p. 16 Overseers and Ministerial Servants Theocratically Appointed ***

  How grateful we are for Jehovah?s direction by means of his Word and holy spirit!

  *** w01 1/15 p. 19 Keep in Step With Jehovah?s Organization ***

  How grateful we are that our path ?is like the bright light that is getting lighter and lighter?!

  *** w01 5/1 p. 28 Pressing On in Jehovah?s Way Is Our Strength and Joy ***

  How grateful we were that Jehovah had shown us the way during that difficult time!

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  Worldwide Growth At 2% - the new service report

  by slimboyfat in

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  i have the feb magazine with the new report in it.

  if anyone is interested to know any of the figures then let me know and i will post it over the next half hour or so....

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  Pole

  Slimboy, can you post the figures for Ireland please, including Memorial partakers if possible. I'd like to know if any of the 11 have died yet, or if their ranks have increased.

  From what I remember the only memorial figure they put for individual countries in the world-wide annual report is the number of those attending the ceremony. Only the world total of partakers is given. I may be wrong though.
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  Worldwide Growth At 2% - the new service report

  by slimboyfat in

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  i have the feb magazine with the new report in it.

  if anyone is interested to know any of the figures then let me know and i will post it over the next half hour or so....

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  Poland?
  
  Regards,
  
  Pole
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  The system of privileges in WTS - any thoughts on how it works?

  by Pole in

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  wts has quite a few traits which are typical of totalitarian systems.

  many of them have been demonstrated on this board (labeling, shunning, monopoly on truth, propaganda, indoctrination, polarization of reality etc.)..

  there is one more aspect of the wts religion which can also be observed in most totalitarian systems and that is the system of granting privileges.

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  Midget-Sasquatch,

  I wholeheartedly agree that for most, the privileges are filling a need for self-actualization. The Org has demonized all other non-cult sources that could provide this need.

  Right on! Some folks can only get privileges in the Org. I mean a carpenter doesn't get too many chances to address an audience of 80+ people for up to 45 minutes in his entire lifetime. The average elder can do it on a weekly basis from the KH podium.

  And those bright enough to make a worldly career are encouraged to harness their ambitions and focus on WTS-defined objectives: such as serving at bethel or Gilead.

  Blondie,

  Good stuff. Having my local elders as New World Princes was my nightmare for a long time :)). BUt I never seriously thought of some other aspects of life in the New World as described in the "story" you posted.

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  The system of privileges in WTS - any thoughts on how it works?

  by Pole in

  1. watchtower
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  wts has quite a few traits which are typical of totalitarian systems.

  many of them have been demonstrated on this board (labeling, shunning, monopoly on truth, propaganda, indoctrination, polarization of reality etc.)..

  there is one more aspect of the wts religion which can also be observed in most totalitarian systems and that is the system of granting privileges.

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  And I rule my cats with an iron fist!

  LOL at Czar, the Mighty Prince of Cats.

  I hope from time to time they get some privileges in your kingdom ...
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  The system of privileges in WTS - any thoughts on how it works?

  by Pole in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  wts has quite a few traits which are typical of totalitarian systems.

  many of them have been demonstrated on this board (labeling, shunning, monopoly on truth, propaganda, indoctrination, polarization of reality etc.)..

  there is one more aspect of the wts religion which can also be observed in most totalitarian systems and that is the system of granting privileges.

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  Pole

  sorry about the formatting. I'm not sure how I got it all in two columns...