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  Was Apostle Paul 1st Centaury Jehovah?s Witness?

  by sleepy in

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  lets play a game and assume the bible is true, and jesus came to earth and all that, and what he taught was the truth.

  he left responsibility with his 12 apostles to look after his ?sheep?.

  a few years later on some guy reckons he has had a vision and has been chosen by god he now as good as takes over the christian congregation and makes many of its rules and writes numerous books with his rules and ideas these are eventually included in the bible, were as the 12 disciples are virtually silent.

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  googlemagoogle

  The early writings around the time of Paul and forward for three centuries give us more information about him.
  
  could you point me to some sources?
  
  as for paul not making weird calculations... it's even in the bible that he did. he told his version of "millions now living will never die". and i guess he was wrong...
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  Now you dont believe the Bible , which characters sound dodgy?

  by sleepy in

  1. watchtower
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  when you stop believing the bible to be the word of god the motives behind the actions of gods prophets and followers come across rather differently.

  in fact much like fundlmentlists today.you have joshua comiting genocide , and paul moving in and tacking control of the christians and changing the religion to his own beliefs.

  which other characters actions can be interpreted differenly when you see them just as ordinary humans with more selfish motives?

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  googlemagoogle

  god
  
  it's perfectly valid to kill people for eating a fruit, aint it? or tempting david to break his own law (counting the people - oh what huge sin!). countless crap.
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  EVIL LOUTION? Why do you still resist? Science doesn't work?

  by Terry in

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  i resisted it for years.

  i was dragged kicking and screaming into the evolution theory camp.. i would rather have had my arm lopped off at the elbow;but, facts are facts.

  i had to be intellectually honest.

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  troll, you are so right. it has also been documented by various religions and historical documents, that earth is flat, and the sun moves around earth. and little trolls living in scandinavia. i don't get why noone believes it, when there's such great evidence!
  
  I am, of course, in camp 1. I despair that there is a camp 2, but at least I live in Europe where they're very rare.
  
  well, living in europe too, i consider both evolution and creation equally. in other words: both camps have their arguments, both may be right and both may be wrong. and: they are not the only existing "camps".
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  EVIL LOUTION? Why do you still resist? Science doesn't work?

  by Terry in

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  i resisted it for years.

  i was dragged kicking and screaming into the evolution theory camp.. i would rather have had my arm lopped off at the elbow;but, facts are facts.

  i had to be intellectually honest.

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  yeah, sirona, that's another POSSIBLE theory ;-)
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  EVIL LOUTION? Why do you still resist? Science doesn't work?

  by Terry in

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  i resisted it for years.

  i was dragged kicking and screaming into the evolution theory camp.. i would rather have had my arm lopped off at the elbow;but, facts are facts.

  i had to be intellectually honest.

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  googlemagoogle

  you always talk about the bible creation story... there's not only the choice between evolution and bible.
  
  there's the possibility of evolution.
  there's the possibility of creation, the bible version.
  there's the possibility of creation, NOT the bible version.
  there's even the possibility of a creator using evolution.
  or creators (plural).
  
  there are probably even other philosophical (evolution-theory is nothing else) attempts to explain the origins of life/earth/universe/what not.
  
  those are all possibilities. none is proven by facts. and evidence is the same for evolution as for creation.
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  Satan wants you to have an easy life

  by Pleasuredome in

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  ahhhhh bless

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  googlemagoogle

  last metal concert i went to i offered satan my soul in exchange for making me a rockstar... didn't work though. guess i'll have to do it the hard way :-/
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  EVIL LOUTION? Why do you still resist? Science doesn't work?

  by Terry in

  1. jw
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  i resisted it for years.

  i was dragged kicking and screaming into the evolution theory camp.. i would rather have had my arm lopped off at the elbow;but, facts are facts.

  i had to be intellectually honest.

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  evolution of life sounds pretty reasonable, however, not any more reasonable than creation of every single creature. if a mouse can evolutionize to a cat, there could also be that invisible guy who created both.
  
  as to the origin of the universe... who initiated the big bang? where was the energy from? and if that invisible guy exists, where the heck is he from?
  
  there are questions that one just cannot answer. i always have to laugh when "scientifics" tell us, "there are aproximately ... billion galaxies in this universe". yeah, right. and how did you count them when you don't even know where the universe starts and where it ends? and what does the end of the universe look like?
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  What day was man created?

  by Gadget in

  1. watchtower
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  according to the bibles account of creation, there seems to be a contridiction as to when man was created.

  the theory accepted by most people i've spoken to is that, according to gen 2:7, 7 and jehovah god proceeded to form the man out of dust from the ground and to blow into his nostrils the breath of life, and the man came to be a living soul, stating that man was created on the seventh creative day.. however, genesis 1:27 states that on the 6th creative day, 27 and god proceeded to create the man in his image, in god?s image he created him; male and female he created them.. so were man created on the 6th or 7th creative day?

  and if god created man on the 7th day, then later created woman from man why does the bible state that he created man and woman at the same time on the 6th day?

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  And the evening and the morning were the first day. ... second day ....
  
  can someone explain that to me? and how does this fit into the 1000/7000 year idea?
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  WERE THERE ANY DRUNKARDS IN YOUR CONGREGATION?

  by badboy in

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  any takers?

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  googlemagoogle

  drink two beers before theocratic school and gone are the stomache problems
  
  guess that's why paul adviced tim to drink some wine before theocratic school... or how was that again?
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  WERE THERE ANY DRUNKARDS IN YOUR CONGREGATION?

  by badboy in

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  any takers?

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  googlemagoogle

  me. and i still am ;-)