EVIL LOUTION? Why do you still resist? Science doesn't work?

by Terry 95 Replies latest jw friends

  • Terry
    Terry

    I resisted it for years. I was dragged kicking and screaming into the evolution theory camp.

    I would rather have had my arm lopped off at the elbow;but, facts are facts. I had to be intellectually honest. The Creation Science arguments were bogus and I did a helluva lot of research.

    Tell us why YOU either:

    1.Finally accept evolution theory because it conforms to the observable facts and most economically explains what the evidence shows

    2. Just refuse to accept the evolution theory because..........? (You fill in the blank)

    Terry

  • patio34
    patio34

    Hi Terry,

    Good ideas.

    I am in the #1 category and my reasons are essentially the violence in nature fits the evolution model and it doesn't fit the "loving creator" idea, to me.

    Pat

  • hooberus
    hooberus
    1.Finally accept evolution theory because it conforms to the observable facts and most economically explains what the evidence shows

    What observable facts support evolution (as in molecules to man evolution) over creation?

  • Satanus
    Satanus

    Don't let hoob derail you, if he can't answer #2 question. I'm in category #1. There was no global flood. There were eons of time and ice ages. Evolution fits most closely the food chain, shared dna, the way dna gets transported from bacteria to the host organism. There problems, of course, but evolution is still an order of magnitude better than creation theory.

    S

  • Carmel
    Carmel

    Again the false dichotomy! Evolution is not an attempt to explain the "origin of life". It is an explanation (hypothesis) of change over time leading to variety and formation of new species. It is substantially supported by Mendelian genetics and contemporary molecular genetics, yet it does not explain a lot of complex structures such as the eye, or behavior as in the migratory habits of monarch butterflies. Someone at some time, I am confident, will provide a simple solutions to those problems. That's the beauty of the scientific method, it is a work in process, never ending, always becoming more elegant. There are hypothesis out there as to the possible origin of life that is consonant with the process of evolution but that is a separate matter.

    carmel

  • NeonMadman
    NeonMadman

    At some point I came to the conclusion that the first few chapters of Genesis work just as well (in a spiritual sense) whether you take them literally or as an allegory. At that point I stopped worrying very much about whether evolution was true, since my study time for such things is rather limited, and there are a lot of topics I consider to be more pressing. Someday I'll probably get into it in more detail, but not real soon.

  • seattleniceguy
    seattleniceguy

    I got tired of being that guy who steadfastly closes his eyes and ears and refuses to see reason, bending the entire universe around to fit his beliefs. Evolution is simply more in line with the facts of the natural world than Creationism, and I got tired of pretending it wasn't so.

    SNG

  • XQsThaiPoes
    XQsThaiPoes

    I dont really believe in creation or evolution. Both are flawed.I just accept them as what some people say they think happend.

    As for genesis, and noah the bible proves a global flood did not happen. Also the creation account in genesis conflicts with its self. I think the falacy about god being a creator is that people assume god is loving and that he knows what he is doing. If you take those assumptions away then creation looks close to evolution.

  • myauntfanny
    myauntfanny

    Ditto Carmel.

  • GentlyFeral
    GentlyFeral

    As soon as I unjaydubbed, I jettisoned the creation story simply because I realized that it had no effect on my ethics one way or another. In other words, the issue was simply irrelevant to me.

    I finally accepted evolution on aesthetic grounds. If you're a theist, it leaves more room for art on the part of God than the "toybox" creation of Genesis. (I got that image from Joseph Campbell's Hero with a Thousand Faces.) And then I read Richard Dawkins' The Blind Watchmaker, which does specifically address problems like the formation of the eye, and which was the most elegant explanation of evolution that I've seen.

    But then, I'm a humanities geek, not a science geek.

    GentlyFeral

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