Posts by Terry

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GETTING THINGS STRAIGHT. Who invented the "FDS" as a prophetic identification of the GB? WHEN?

by Terry in

15 july 1906 issue of the watch tower russell stated maria russell was the first who in 1894 "called attention to matt.

24:44-45, applying it to me at a meeting at allegheny and in another meeting with the new york church.

i demurred that i had not thought of the passage thus, and declined to make any personal application of it, although i could not deny the force of the argument....i urged great moderation in the making of any personal application" (p. r3811).

Terry

15 July 1906 issue of the Watch Tower Russell stated Maria Russell was the first who in 1894 "called attention to Matt. 24:44-45, applying it to me at a meeting at Allegheny and in another meeting with the New York Church. I demurred that I had not thought of the passage thus, and declined to make any personal application of it, although I could not deny the force of the argument....I urged great moderation in the making of any personal application" (p. R3811). in the same issue, Russell declares himself (with professed humility) to be "God's mouthpiece" with the unique role of disseminating God's truths as his "agent"

A FEMALE received this amazing NEW LIGHT! She convinced her MALE husband of the force of its logic! (Remind you of the Adam and Eve scenario?)

"I claim nothing of superiority, nor supernatural power, 'dignity or authority; nor do I aspire to exalt myself in the estimation of mv brethren of the household of faith....No, the truths I present, as God’s mouthpiece, were not revealed in visions or dreams, nor by God's audible voice, nor all at once, but gradually, especially since 1870, and particularly since 1880. Neither is this clear unfolding of truth due to any human ingenuity or acuteness of perception, but to the simple fact that God’s due time has come; and if I did not speak, and no other agent could be found, the very stones would cry out" (p. R3822).

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Greek Mythology influence on New Testament

by Magnum in

a few days ago, i was in a book store, and i picked up a book providing a brief overview of classical mythology.

as i examined the opening pages, i read about tartaurus (place of punishment) and hades (god of the underworld).. it seems so odd that tartarus and hades would be mentioned in the new testament, and yet they were part of greek mythology which predated the new testament.

why would bible writers have used such terms?

Terry

The historical setting of the New Testament is in the Roman Empire.

The Romans were enthralled with the culture, language and religion of the Greeks.

GREEK was the way educated people displayed their sophistication in the Roman Empire.

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While it is true that the Romans did speak a form of Latin known as vulgar Latin, it was quite different from the Classical Latin that we generally think of them speaking (Classical Latin is what we usually learn at University). Vulgar Latin is the language that the Romance languages (Italian, French, etc.) developed from. Classical Latin was used as an official language only. In addition, members of the Eastern Roman Empire were speaking Greek exclusively by the 4th century, and Greek had replaced Latin as the official language. (http://listverse.com/2008/05/05/top-10-myths-about-the-romans/)

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Early Christians were certainly strongly influenced by the Greek philosophers such as Socrates (the model for Jesus), Plato, and Aristotle.

Neo-Platonic academies, schools, and traveling teachers were everywhere.

Paul of Tarsus grew up in a hotbed of Greek culture and religious ideas.

The Hebrews/Jews had seen their culture and language smothered by the conquests of Alexander the Great. Greek subsumed Aramaic and Hebrew.

THE SEPTUAGINT was a GREEK translation of the OLD TESTAMENT.

What is beneficial about Greek?

The Greeks had a word for everything. The vocabulary was specific to a degree and depth Hebrew never was.

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"Big Eyes" the story of artist Margaret Keane

by designs in

the tim burton film is ready for release.. www.thewrap.com/big-eyes-premiere-finds-audience-howling-at-christoph-waltz-and-amy-adams-dueling-artists/.

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Terry

http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/scandals/286849/1/HOW-A-JEHOVAHS-WITNESS-participated-in-one-of-the-great-art-FRAUDS-of-the-20th-century

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After all, JWs were RIGHT!

by abiather in

1) science and technology appeared as a savior to mankind, yet the overall result points to the opposite direction.. http://aeon.co/magazine/science/why-has-human-progress-ground-to-a-halt/.

2) john kerry warns of catastrophe if climate change is not tackled.

http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/environment/article4295230.ece (times, saturday 13, 2014).

Terry

The Watchtower Corporation is run by gunslingers who target practice by shooting at the broadside of a barn.

After they empty their smoking pistols, they walk over to the bullet holes in the walls.

Then, they remove from their pocket a piece of chalk and proceed to draw a tiny little circle around each bullet hole.

Finally, to every half-wit and Rube who walks by they call out:

"How's that for accuracy?"

The unwitting Country Bumpkin stares at the tiny chalk circles and sees the hole dead center.

And guess what? They are mightily impressed!

The GB fire round after round wildly, but always manage to make the target seem miraculous AFTER the fact.

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can an unhappy married woman vent?

by sowhatnow in

i continue to be saddened by the fact that i am married to such a selfish man.. i want to know if i am the only wife who has no say when it comes to using the house she lives in for activities including other people.. .

let me explain.. yesterday my daugher who is 35 got a new puppy for my grandaughter who is 13. today my daughter and son in law are going to help my uncle at a job, and my granddaughter wanted to spend the day here, my daugher said shed bring her and the puppy over, i laughed and said 'your dad wont have that, ill have to go to your house'.. after all it will 'upset' the 2 cats they will hide all day [like they do anytime someone including my grandchild is in my home] .. i already knew that he would not like it if she brought the puppy over, [weve had dogs so its not like he hates them].

he doesnt care if his grandaughter would have enjoyed playing with the puppy over grandmas house, where she likes to be for a change, and that fact that id like to see what my cats would do when they saw a dog for the first time in thier lives.. maybe id have liked to play with the puppy .. when i said to my husband that my daughter said she wanted tp bring them over he said.

Terry

I married four times.

I divorced four times.

Finally--when it was too late--I figured out what was going on. That's a long learning curve.

I'll simply share my conclusions and you can take them or leave them as you are moved to do so.

I've been to a dozen therapists and fought all of them. Why? Being a man I could never shake loose of the singular

notion I AM RIGHT. But, guess what? I seldom was.

When your fundamental premise is wrong--you'll build everything else on top of that foundation.

Good luck and be strong! What follows is my life's take-away wisdom.

1.Sooner or later, every evolved creature has to decide what their own nature amounts to.

Are we trees or dogs? Dogs pee on trees, so better choose wisely.

2. In every relationship, if it is going to last, somebody has to eat the shit sandwich. Why?

Because the one who loves the most will be dominated by the one who loves the least. So then, why

choose that diet in exchange for longevity of a relationship? Your choice.

3. Rule of thumb: People treat us the way we ALLOW them to treat us. People who don't set (and defend) boundaries

are begging to be run over.

4. The number one signal of a doomed relationship is the presence of contempt for the other partner.

con·tempt kənˈtem(p)t/ noun . . .the feeling that a person or a thing is beneath consideration, worthless, or deserving scorn.

5. What we reward, we get MORE of. What we punish, we discourage. Be very aware of your reward/punishment behavior.

6. In the end, we get the life we allow ourselves to settle for. The only way out is to searchingly ask and answer the one question which matters: WHAT DO I WANT OUT OF LIFE AND WHAT IS STANDING IN MY WAY. Most often, we are what is standing in our way.

7. Understand the principle called: THE SANCTION OF THE VICTIM.

What is it?

Good, able, kind and reasonable people act as their own destroyers by giving passive consent to the will of others heedless of--and indifferent to their destruction. No manner of injury done to us by others can succeed if we choose to withhold our consent. We must see we could put an end to our outrages by pronouncing a single word aloud. We must not fear to speak it.

The word is “No."

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THE IMPONDERABLES TOPIC (Enter at your own risk)

by Terry in

i suggest taking this slowly .

.. consider the difference between taking a poll about an upcoming election and the actual vote itself on the day of the election.. the information gathered about what the vote will be is provisional.

the vote on the day of the election is actual and official.. it is the one that counts.. now, carefully ask yourself what the specific difference--if any--there is between the poll information and the election result as an identical knowledge of.

Terry

We'll just have to ponder that one . . .

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HELP ME COMPILE A LIST OF DISCARDED WORDS AND PHRASES from the WTS

by Terry in

jw
friends

in fort worth, texas around 1959. gradually i became aware of the argot.

special, private language).

jw's had these phrases they used over and over again.. upon first hearing, these words and phrases stood out as odd, weird or awkward.. however.

Terry

Thanks Donny--the check is in the mail!

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HELP ME COMPILE A LIST OF DISCARDED WORDS AND PHRASES from the WTS

by Terry in

jw
friends

in fort worth, texas around 1959. gradually i became aware of the argot.

special, private language).

jw's had these phrases they used over and over again.. upon first hearing, these words and phrases stood out as odd, weird or awkward.. however.

Terry

I have ALWAYS thought the choice of the word PIONEER was just plain archaic and weird.

Whenever I heard the word COLPORTEUR I always thought of the song, BEGIN THE BEGUINE.

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HELP ME COMPILE A LIST OF DISCARDED WORDS AND PHRASES from the WTS

by Terry in

jw
friends

in fort worth, texas around 1959. gradually i became aware of the argot.

special, private language).

jw's had these phrases they used over and over again.. upon first hearing, these words and phrases stood out as odd, weird or awkward.. however.

Terry

Hahahahaha. . . maaaaaay beeeee

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HELP ME COMPILE A LIST OF DISCARDED WORDS AND PHRASES from the WTS

by Terry in

jw
friends

in fort worth, texas around 1959. gradually i became aware of the argot.

special, private language).

jw's had these phrases they used over and over again.. upon first hearing, these words and phrases stood out as odd, weird or awkward.. however.

Terry

WHILE I'M THINKING OF IT . . .

The changes in parlance are deliberate, I hypothesize.

Why change terminology all the time?

Here is my take on it:

Within the short space of a conversation with a JW, a current JW can tell if you USE TO BE a JW.

How?

Your terminology is dated!

Telltale stale references peg you right off!

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Sidebar:

When I lived in Los Angeles, one of my closest friends was a Scientologists. That's all he talked about, non-stop, gibber-jabber.

Inadvertently, I was absorbing the lingo! After a year of this, I could "speak Scientology!"

I was an art consultant at the time and I dealt with movie studios, and personnel.

One of my clients was photographer who's celebrity photos were "hot" at the time.

His portraiture was on just about every magazine you picked up!

I could spot his photographs and identify them quickly because I had an eye for his technique.

Well, one day I ran into him at a movie theater. We chatted a bit and he said something which contained

the following sentence.

"I'm so busy right now I'm wearing more hats than I can keep up with."

I stared for a second and suddenly blurted, "DICK, YOU ARE A SCIENTOLGIST!"

(His name was Dick Zimmerman.)

He was flustered at my non-sequitur! He babbled and deflected. You see, he didn't want anybody to know!

I could tell he didn't want to deny outright, but he didn't want to ask how I knew.

I smiled and explained myself.

"Scientologists refer to the different categories of work they do as being 'hatted' as in wearing one hat for this

and another hat for that. What you said was a dead giveaway!"

He grinned and closed his eyes. "Ahhhh." That's all he said.

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You see, JW's can do the same thing just from the small conversations they overhear.

A couple of months back I was accidentally overhearing a conversation between two young men.

I heard the term "torture-stake" and the cat was out of the back straightaway!"

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(edited to add:)

I was curious whatever happened to Zimmerman. I just did an Internet search.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vuKzEnmoRjY

Dick is referred to this way:

"Dick Zimmerman has been referred to by the media as an
artistic genius. Known as "The Image Maker," he is considered to be the most accomplished portrait artist of the 20th century. Zimmerman is sought after by the world's most celebrated entertainers, dignitaries . . ."

This is the work of his publicist, by the way!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_EwLlMhTHU