buckster
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YOU WANNA SEE SOMETHING FUNNY???
by Mary inok, i was working on my project about "new light" and i came across a very interesting statement that was made 24 years ago via the wt:.
december 1, 1984 watchtower:.
"....have apostates who claim that "the last days" began at pentecost and cover the entire christian era promoted christian alertness?
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buckster
Hello and welcome! This situaqtion often goes down real fast and its hard to hang on. Your mind races through all your fears and it can really spin you. Slow down and take it one step at a time. You found a place where others have been through situations like yours so thats a good step.
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OK, let me explain....
by dawg inso, the last few threads i've written have been about telling your families and friends how you feel; many of you have given me the reasons you don't speak out to your families, but i want to tell you the main reason you should.
please let me explain.... .
i keep on stressing this point because how it makes you feel, i'm telling you all, that for over 19 years, i let information about my thoughts out slowly, then the tipping point... at my uncle's funeral 2 february's ago, while listening to my family pontificate at dinner about who so and so is pioneering and the like, it hit me that i was sick to the core of them throwing their bullisi*t beliefs at me like i was inferior or something.
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buckster
Dawg I feel you dude. I am out of time, its Father's Day so I have to get going for my family(no witness nothin' for my wife and kids). I have taken a big stand and it is a better way to go whether change occurs or not. They have no power over me, they tiptoe and I do not. Different circumstances justify different measures but there is a line that must be established. Talk more later.
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Any actually embarrased to admit they were Witnesses?
by Robert7 inwhen i was active, i was always (usually) proud to talk about being a jw, our faith, reasons for our stupid beliefs on birthdays, x-mas, etc.
now with everything i'm going through, given how much of an impact this is to my life, i want to talk to others about it, like coworkers, and other friends.
but thinking about how i would explain how it's a mind-controlling cult, i feel stupid for falling for it.
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buckster
Nice post Heather. Beautifully done. You have good insight. Thank you for your care and interest in helping your friend.
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Graduation and elders meeting!
by why??? inhi everyone, i'm not new here just haven't posted in a while.
for those who remember me i'm graduating from college on wednesday!!!!
i'm very happy but there's still a dark cloud (pardon the dramatic-ness) i am still with my non-jw boyfriend of almost three years and i've let my parents know that we want to get married (next month) and they went and told the elders(they did it kinda behind my back) who now want to meet and talk with me!
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buckster
Leave, don't talk leave. Create distance. Build strength. Put on armor. Fight when you are prepared properly.
Leave and marry your dude if he is the right guy. Parents will do what they will do.
I did 19 years ago(ok the right girl). Best thing I ever did.
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Violations of privacy re: postal mail by JWs
by Dogpatch ini have been sending out orders of books to jws, ex-jws and others for over 25 years.
sometimes plain wrap to keep the family's noses out of it.
over the years i have seen the same constant pattern: whenever the questioning jw lives with or near family members who are currently jws, they want to break open the mail to see what others are ordering!!
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buckster
They often justify their actions with their fantasy of righteousness. Fairy tale perspective for their own sense of right.
I'm not suprised. Its just so pathetic that they say things are lies but they fear it. So what they are really admitting with their actions is that they don't believe that Jehovah can handle matters for them so they should steal what others have paid for.
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Hello to everyone!
by redredrose inbrand new here, haven't even picked out avatar yet.
but i feel the need to reach out and touch someone (smile).
my situation is a little confusing to me, i am definitely on the way out and have been fading for quite some time, however my decision to leave has just been made very recently.
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buckster
Hello and welcome! Start with the foundation. Check it out. Not too stable. Hmmm.........yup, can't support much from the bottom up.
I am so glad to see that you are well!
Hang in there. It will work out fine.
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Any actually embarrased to admit they were Witnesses?
by Robert7 inwhen i was active, i was always (usually) proud to talk about being a jw, our faith, reasons for our stupid beliefs on birthdays, x-mas, etc.
now with everything i'm going through, given how much of an impact this is to my life, i want to talk to others about it, like coworkers, and other friends.
but thinking about how i would explain how it's a mind-controlling cult, i feel stupid for falling for it.
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buckster
As an adult who escaped at 18 and has now purged this crap after burying it in my head fo fifteen years I am no longer embarassed I am just damn proud.
I was embarassed as a child through to my young adult years. Double life at school became kind of a solution and I was very good at it. That has its own blunders but I felt that it was a matter of survival. Where are ya gonna go should you actually let people know how you feel? Child protective services? That was too daunting and we were made paranoid of the system. If parents find out, you feel as though you'll be roasted...forget any kind of freedom. And the pummeling your ears and brain would take as a result of your "lack of humility" would be endless. I would imagine that I would have been left with reading Witchtower & Afake material exclusively from dawn till dusk. I would have been told that I was the embarssment and how could I bring reproach to the family and the org.
How many times did you have to explain beliefs that you thought were nonsense and exclude yourself from things out of obligation to that nonsense? That is embarassing.
I am free. You are too. I'm so happy about that. I am proud now and not embarassed.
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Any actually embarrased to admit they were Witnesses?
by Robert7 inwhen i was active, i was always (usually) proud to talk about being a jw, our faith, reasons for our stupid beliefs on birthdays, x-mas, etc.
now with everything i'm going through, given how much of an impact this is to my life, i want to talk to others about it, like coworkers, and other friends.
but thinking about how i would explain how it's a mind-controlling cult, i feel stupid for falling for it.
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Current elder explains the college situation to me
by changeling inwhile he says he has not seen a letter ,he tells me that at the last visit the co told his body of elders pretty much what is being said here on jwd.. he gave some examples: .
1- if a young ms/pioneer, attends college and lives at home, would he and his elder dad be deleted?
the young man is "spiritually focused".. 2- an elder's daughter attends college in the hopes of having a good job in the future and dad promotes this course of action.
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buckster
They are senseless to start with.
This line of reasoning is the same kind of rhetoric and BS that I used to hear. Sometimes they run around and try to get everybody on the same page when the current Imperial Leader has some kind of epiphany.
Really though its the same old thinking I heard as a kid except they are just trying to "clarify" some murmings that have come up. Both Grandfathers, Dad, Great Uncle, CO, annointed claimant, MS all in the family. Its very similiar to stuff I heard.
Although this is specfic its not really new. It gives elders who want to get wound up another reason to whip the crew and they will.