ah heck...my dog won't even care.
doogie
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doogie
all i ask is that after i die throngs of people i've never met will weep openly. honestly, is that so much? think of the contributions i've made to society, like not getting in the way too much. also, i hold the elevator door open rather than hammering the door close button most of the time.
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How do you cheer yourself up?
by Sirona inif your jw family upset you, or if you're having "one of those days" (or weeks, or months .
is there anything that you actively do to counter the negative feelings?.
i usually try to go into "look after myself" mode and spend some time alone just relaxing or having a good cry .
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alcohol. sweet, sweet, alcohol...
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Identity
by Blueblades inwho am i.i am about to reveal who i am.
before i do, can anyone reveal who i am.
search my post's and tell me who you think i am.
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doogie
Jesus is that you...we've been waiting ya know!
"Save me, Jeebus!"
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why take the time to "fade"?
by doogie inhey guys,.
i'm perplexed by something and i don't know how well it will be received on this board but i'm really curious.
why did you take the time to fade away vs. just daing yourself?.
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i appreciate that. i didn't know how this would come across. i more than anything just want to hear different perspectives. without that, we just all wallow in our own silly little opinions
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why take the time to "fade"?
by doogie inhey guys,.
i'm perplexed by something and i don't know how well it will be received on this board but i'm really curious.
why did you take the time to fade away vs. just daing yourself?.
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i fully agree that there's no way to understand the full scope of our decisions beforehand. especially considering the emotional burden that comes with decisions that could sever the family ties.
i think the main thing that i didn't realize beforehand (but was pleasantly surprised about), was that you do get over it with time. i know that everyone's experiences are different with this stuff, but my family stuff since leaving has in no way "permanently scarred" me. yes, it was painful at the time and it took a loooooong time to really sort my feelings out, but it made me who i am today and therefore it was necessary in my eyes. far from being a scar, i look at it all like a ladder that helped me to reach heights spiritually and emotionally that i never even imagined before (man, that sounds stupid, but it's really true).
i voluntarily DA'd myself and i knew that not only would i be outcast but also labeled an apostate because of my reasons for leaving. my family would not only disown me but hate me because of my beliefs. suddenly i would be the enemy. i knew it would be hard (probably didn't realize exactly how hard at the time), but again, i felt it was necessary, even then. who knows what will happen in the future...they may come around. it matters not to me though, because i can enjoy today far more than i could otherwise.
just my 2 cents. i understand where you're coming from and i struggled with the fears of the repercussions of my letter and the thoughts that maybe i'd be better off to just slink away into the shadows. i guess i just want to tell you guys that standing on the other side...my side...the view isn't as bad as you might think. all things pass with time and we can only truly move on after we destroy all ties to the past.
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why take the time to "fade"?
by doogie inhey guys,.
i'm perplexed by something and i don't know how well it will be received on this board but i'm really curious.
why did you take the time to fade away vs. just daing yourself?.
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Maybe for you. You must not have any family to lose. Its quite a different story when you know you will lose your family, that my dear is not a temporary discomfort, it is a permanent devestation.
i know where you're coming from.
i come from a step family. all 4 parents are still active witnesses (both my dad and step-dad are elders). my brother and his wife are missionaries. my mother and father pioneer. my family and my friends were my life and now they are not. i haven't spoken to either of my parents in almost 2 years. i wasn't informed about my brother's wedding until 2 weeks before the date (i wasn't invited). i can go on...
i'm not trying to be dramatic and i'm not digging for sympathy or anything here. i'm just saying that i did have family and friends to lose. but even so, if i had it all to do over, i wouldn't change a thing. yes, it took many sleepless nights and tears but i feel like i had to go through that to let go of the religion.
i feel like, ok, if i had played my cards differently i could still have them in my life. but, if i had done things differently, i would've had to convince them that i was something that i am not. if they profess love for me because of what they think i am rather than what i truly am (and what's more, they'd hate me if they knew the truth), then how real is their love anyway? how valid is it if it's utterly dependent upon what i believe. i can't say that those are the kind of people that i would want to surround myself with anyway (and it breaks my heart to say that, but it's true).
i just wanted to clear that up...this is my perspective and that's why i'm curious as to others reasonings.
sorry for the confusion.
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why take the time to "fade"?
by doogie inhey guys,.
i'm perplexed by something and i don't know how well it will be received on this board but i'm really curious.
why did you take the time to fade away vs. just daing yourself?.
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hey guys,
i'm perplexed by something and i don't know how well it will be received on this board but i'm really curious. why did you take the time to fade away vs. just DAing yourself?
to me, the idea of fading makes me nauseous and i really don't understand the logic. it's seems like such a delay of the inevitable. i'm not trying to be confrontational, but my heart really goes out to those of you that struggle mightily to "properly" fade away so that you don't get DF'd/DA'd. i just see so much effort and stress in the fading process when really (in my eyes) all you gain is not being shunned by those who would readily shun you if they knew how you truly felt. it seems kind of like masking the truth to me. why not take pride in the fact that you're standing up for your beliefs? (or in this case disbeliefs?)
i'm not talking about those that went inactive and just never got around to turning in a letter. i'm more curious about those that are in the org and consiously make an effort to become inactive (or those that get reinstated just to go inactive).
again, i know this is a touchy subject and extemely subjective, but i just think that the benefits of standing up for yourself far outweigh any temporary discomfort the intolerance of the active JW's can heap upon us.
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JW
by jgiordano inwhat is the best way to quit this "truth" if you're family is jehovah's witness and u pretend like ur a devoted witness.
u wanna leave when ur an adult so the best way is....
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yeah, no clear answer. if you're young (which i think you might be) and your whole family is in, it's especially tough. you're left with 2 choices:
1. pretend you believe it but are just "tiring out" and eventually you can go inactive and fade away (again, hard if your whole family is still active)
2. just leave. this is nice and clean, no double life, but the repercussions are terrible and it gets REALLY messy.
i opted for #2 and it was pretty rough. i'm glad that i'm clean and free now though, and wouldn't do it any other way if i had the chance. i personally can't imagine "hanging on the fringes" just so i can have the affection of people that would disown me if they knew how i really felt. may as well tell them how i really feel and deal with their intolerance which is there anyway...place the burden of their actions squarely upon their own shoulders.
again, there is no easy way because they demand that you feel and believe the same as they do. which you don't and can't. simple as that.
i'll get off my soapbox now...
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Make Up A Prophecy or a Statement You'd Like To See In A Watchtower
by minimus insince the watchtower has regularly disseminated "false prophecy" over the years and has given truly silly reasonings for their beliefs, let's give the society some ideas as to what they might put into the next watchtower.....i'll start----"since the elders are representatives of christ jesus himself, we should give them glory too.
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doogie
next week's questions from readers:
"Which Toilet Paper Is Appropriate for a True Christian's Heinie?"
also, i will start subscribing to the watchtower again when they confess the parrallel prophetic fulfillment of the enchiladas i made last week.
i don't care what new prophecy or statement the watchtower comes out with...i won't see it anyway.[makes fart noise with tongue and gives the double thumbs down]