you can get one chapter online somewhere (i think its the chapter on blood and blood fractions). i can't remember where...try google.
i looked for it online because i am cheap and i have been known to scam estates on occasion.
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"Crisis of Conscience" text available on the Internet?
by AlmostAtheist ini'm not cheap, i'm not trying to scam ray's estate out of $15, i just want to download the book to my palm so i can read it when i get a chance.
i'd grab it from the library, but it's not the sort of coffee-table book i need lying around the house at this point in my life!.
thanks for any links!
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Have we really found God??
by New Castles inwhile as a global community we have been able to come together in matters of science, technology and sometimes even government, humanity has never really found the truth about religion.
whether one is true or not is where our conflicts begin.
whether you are christian and believe in the bible or muslim and read the koran, both are sure the other is wrong.
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doogie
in another 2000 years i believe that society will have evolved past the need for the concept of a personal deity.
well, it may take longer, but think about it...
first, society has a superstitious understanding of the universe and god (weather phenomena are his personal expressions; the stars tell specific stories or give specific guidance; he must be appeased or even protected with different offerings and sacrifices). man sees phenomena which he can't comprehend and tries to explain them.
then, they learn how the universe operates through science, so they have to develop a more advanced theology to explain the loopholes in the earlier superstitions (christianity started out in many, many respects as simply a more secularly acceptable version of ancient greek mythology). this theology was force-fed to society for centuries through many avenues (the inquisitions, witch hunts, pretty much the whole dark ages, even now through some of our laws in this country). man learns what causes the phenomena and adapts his earlier explanations to fit.
only just recently, really, has it become acceptable to publicly question all things religious and voice dissenting opinions about the validity of these theologies. let that atmosphere of skepticism brew for a few millenia and i think humanity will have no further need for the superstitions or the complex theologies to explain them. man realizes that the earliest explanations for his universe are outdated and discards them.
i think that we still have religion because we still have unanswered phenomena and we have to come up with an answer (i.e. the beginning of the universe). science will continue to improve and teach us the things that we have no answers to at this time.
oh, sure...you'll always have religion and god to some extent, but on the whole, it will be obsolete. i read a book about the evolution of religion and spiritual concepts in the history of society. pretty interesting stuff.
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Do you scream at your tv?
by kls inoh yes it is that time of year again.
the time that my dogs hide when football starts because of my husband screaming at the tv.
do you scream at the tv knowing that the players can not hear you?
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doogie
basketball is my drug of choice. no one will watch it with me anymore.
my uncle put his fist through the door when the cubs were knocked out last year. that's sort of like yelling.
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John (who) For President?
by Golf injohn kerry fans, are you aware of this information?
click below.. http://www.newswithviews.com/metcalf/metcalf109.htm .
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doogie
yeah, that's my point exactly Celia. who are the bigger terrorists here? (from a purely civilian standpoint) we've slaughtered many, many, many more of their citizens than they have killed of ours OR of their own (saddam was a monster but he didn't slaughter nearly as many iraqis as we have...and even if he did, since when is the american military interpol?).
besides, technically speaking, we can't compare our slaughter in iraq to the 9/11 tragedy since iraq had nothing to do with it. saddam never killed a single american on american soil and yet he was the greatest threat to american civilians? heck, the bully in gradeschool is a greater threat to americans than saddam was...he might steal your lunch money. and yet, we're justified in our massacre of a multitude of iraqi civilians. makes sense to me.
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John (who) For President?
by Golf injohn kerry fans, are you aware of this information?
click below.. http://www.newswithviews.com/metcalf/metcalf109.htm .
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doogie
it's not so much that i'm a "John Kerry fan", it's just that bush is such an ignoramus. like Tuesday said, it doesn't matter who i'm voting for...it's who i'm not voting for. then again, i vote in texas so my anti-bush vote means absolutely, positively nothing.
bush fans...name ONE thing in this country that he has improved since he took office. his leadership in the "war on terror"? sorry folks, but if that war even exists (which is debatable) we're losing. over 1,000 US casualties in Iraq? (not to mention hundreds more civilian casualties than in 9/11) c'mon, man. that's not a very positive stat, right? Kerry is a dumb ass too but why not let someone else give it a shot. why does bush deserve another chance?
if i don't do a good job at work, i get fired. not because they have someone lined up that they are positive will do better than me but because i blew my shot at it. time to move on. besides, if it's true that god really did 'appoint' bush to be president, he's already lost my vote.
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does god bless people?...does he punish people?
by doogie ini've had many a conversation with my girlfriend on this.
my thinking is, if god actively chooses to bless certain individuals, couldn't his withholding of blessings from others be considered a form of punishment?.
religions in general are quick to say that on a daily basis god blesses his followers (people pray for it continuously) but rarely do i hear that the god they worship actively/daily punishes people.
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doogie
You want Him to hold your beer after wiping Nos' ass?
god's gotta have like a million hands, right? he probably has a special hand that he only uses for butt wiping.
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Is religion and faith not possible for some?
by littletree ini ask this question because i'm starting to have the scarey feeling that i was born "faithless".
other than feeling that babies and flowers are beautiful and miraculous, i have been having the darndest time feeling 100% sure that god exists and cares.
things that religious folks say are "blessings" i just see as the product of human effort and choice, or as stuff that probably would have happened anyway.
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doogie
i know exactly what you're talking about. i personally would suggest reading some stuff about the history of the bible and jesus (i enjoyed "Is It God's Word?" by Joseph Wheless and "The Jesus Puzzle" by Earl Doherty).
i felt like it seems you do before reading them (basically, that i didn't have faith in anything divine but i still felt i ought to). i had a gut feeling that i couldn't ignore, but the intelligent portion of my brain (it's a small portion) said that i should have faith in god.
after reading those 2 books (by the way, you can read them both online for free. just google for the authors/titles), i no longer feel like i'm missing anything. i have satisfactory answers for the evolution of religion and especially christianity. faith fills a void in some lives. i think other lives require a more academic understanding of their universe.
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What book are you reading now?
by ozziepost infrom time to time we like to share some good reads with each other on jwd, and now might be a good time to share with you what i'm reading this week.
it's "the gate" by francois bizot which tells of his experiences as the only western prisoner to survive the khmer rouge in cambodia.
in 1971, on a routine outing through the cambodian countryside, the young french ethnologist francois bizot is captured by the khmer rouge.
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doogie
"The Fermata" by Nicholson Baker
this guy is an amazing author. very interesting style. the book is hilarious too (he reminds me a little of Chuck Palahniuk)
its about a guy who can stop time and what he does while time is stopped (i only just started it, but so far i love it)
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does god bless people?...does he punish people?
by doogie ini've had many a conversation with my girlfriend on this.
my thinking is, if god actively chooses to bless certain individuals, couldn't his withholding of blessings from others be considered a form of punishment?.
religions in general are quick to say that on a daily basis god blesses his followers (people pray for it continuously) but rarely do i hear that the god they worship actively/daily punishes people.
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doogie
If god has a helping hand, he can wipe my ass.
haha! and he can hold my beer.
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If its good, God did it... if its bad Satan did it....
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i've read the bible and i don't recall satan himself actually ever doing anything evil or harmful... however i read many accounts where god killed or tormented countless thousands of people for arbitrary reasons.. aside from prophecies where jehover says that satan will hurt people in the future (hasn't happened yet, and no sign that it will happen), can anyone cite an example in the bible where satan actually harmed anyone?.
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Supposing you were able to insert a DNA strand that would fix the disease within 1000 generations. Would you stick with the program?
c'mon, man...it was a yes or no question. DNA strand?...if you could fix them, would you? or would you not?
we make this situation so complicated in an effort to justify god's position