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  Leaving or not

  by Norm in

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  the thread about people leaving has made me think of the 7 years i have been on the net and participated in various witness and ex-witness e-mail groups or discussion boards.. in these years i have seen many a person, which for various reasons come and go from such forums.

  there are of course as many opinions as there are people and in such diverse groups there will always be debates about every conceivable subject there is.

  people who come out of the watchtower society seems as a group particularly ill equipped to deal with disagreements and strong debates but of course some more than others.

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  NORM,

  GOOD POINTS.

  BAJA
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  Just a bit of humor.

  by WildHorses in

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  my mother sent this to me and i had a good chuckle.

  i thought maybe a few of you could use a good laugh too.. .

  nuns at the football game .

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  Hey I'm from Montana! Your right it's not hell, but you can see it from here.

  baja
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  Eulogy for My Father

  by Farkel in

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  on tuesday, august 4, 2001 at 3:42.a.m.

  mst, duane floyd checketts, 77 died in his sleep due to complications from pneumonia.

  he is survived by his wife bette and two children, douglas checketts, patty smith, and 8 grandchildren.. duane, who was fondly called duke by everyone who knew him was born in farmington, utah on march 8, 1924. his father floyd, was one of 10 children raised in a tiny house built by his own mormon father who immigrated in the early 1860's from birmingham, england.

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  Farkel,

  Thank you for sharing your father's life story. I would like to extend my condolences to you. I wish you peace.

  baja
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  God not only condoned mass murder, he ordered it

  by Kent in

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  god not only condoned mass murder, he ordered it .

  i notice that many people here have claimed that "god is not a murderer.

  god does not condone or plan the brutal murder of children!

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  SixofNine,

  AMEN.

  baja
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  God not only condoned mass murder, he ordered it

  by Kent in

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  god not only condoned mass murder, he ordered it .

  i notice that many people here have claimed that "god is not a murderer.

  god does not condone or plan the brutal murder of children!

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  This thread brings out why I dislike the way Christians think. They can justify anything, so they can keep everything in a neat little faith package.

  If the premise is that God has the three O's, and that IS a requirement for Him to be God Almighty in the first place, then all things are withing His sphere of influence. He allows Satan and evil to go only as far as He wills it but He does not initiate evil. So there is 'determination' and 'allowance' but all is under His ultimate control. 'Free will' is actually minimal.
  Rex

  By your own words you convict your God. First you say He allows evil to go only as far as He wills. Think about that statment, so if he really cared or loved man he would stop it. Next you say everything is under His ultimate control, and that people's free will is minimal. So what your saying is that people are pawns, and the players cause people to sin

  Do you have any chidren? I hope God dosen't go into a rampage any time soon. He might just decide your block is full of evil (may I add that according to you, he created in the first place) and have you all put to the sword.

  Sick of all forms of mind control, JW and otherwise.

  baja

  P.S. If God knows all things, He would of known the outcome of all his actions. So why would He create Satan? Your belief would make Him responsible for every act of evil that has ever taken place.
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  Need new drink!!!

  by tattoogrl333 in

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  ok this has nothing to do with being a jw or anything of that nature but it is important to me and i need some help:.

  here goes i have been drinking rum and coke (bacardi) since i can remember and finally realized that maybe it is contributing to my severly harsh hangovers.

  so i went on a quest in search of a new drink.

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  Shots of Tequila to bring out the in ya!

  baja
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  LET'S MAKE A LITTLE WAGER

  by You Know in

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  perhaps you recall the instance in the bible where samson made a wager with the philistines that they couldnt guess his riddle.

  as it turned out they wheedled the answer out of him by his fiancee, but the point is that they had a wager.

  since the underlying assumption of the apostasy is that we are not living in the last days of this system of things, and that this world is not facing anything remotely like the biblical apocalypse, at least not any time soon, in the spirit of such antagonism, i would like to propose a similar wager.

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  You know, you said this in the 'Could you clarify this for me thread'

  It is not uncommon for people to take a verse here and there and construct an entire doctrine out of it.

  
  ozziepost replied,

  So how does this sit with the WTS 'explanation' of Luke chapter 12 verse 42 "Who is the faithful & discreet slave?".

  Hoist by your own petard, You Know.

  
  Ouch You Know, that's gonna leave a mark! Let me know if you need some ice for that.

  It must really suck when you shoot yourself in the head with your own words.

  ozziepost, you have my vote for thread MVP.

  baja
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  Clarify this for me if you can.

  by Bob Knowing in

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  i being a non jw would like some clairity.

  i have been reading the book of revelation and have found that god and jesus are refered to in the same way.

  "i am the alpha and the omega, who is and who was and who is to come, the almighty.

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  You Know,

  You know said

  It is not uncommon for people to take a verse here and there and construct an entire doctrine out of it.

  ozzie replied,

  So how does this sit with the WTS 'explanation' of Luke chapter 12 verse 42 "Who is the faithful & discreet slave?".

  Hoist by your own petard, You Know.

  Cheers,
  Ozzie

  Ouch You Know, that's gonna leave a mark! Let me know if you need some ice for that.

  It must really suck when you shoot yourself in the head with your own words.

  ozziepost, you have my vote for thread MVP.

  baja
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  Rookie on the Field

  by peacepipe in

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  i've been reading this forum page for about a year.

  at first i thought it was a meeting place for practicing jw's but after reading many posts found that most people here have been hurt or don't see things eye to eye with the wt org.

  i am not a jw but i have been associating with them for about 3 yrs.

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  bajarama

  Hi Peacepipe,

  Welcome to the board! I'm not love bombing, I promise. Glad to have your unique veiw on things. I look foward to reading more of your posts.

  baja
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  Does Genesis Teach a Local Flood?

  by JanH in

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  i went to the homepage for ray franz' commentary press, and i found an article there promoting the idea that genesis teaches a local flood.

  the author believes the genesis flood actually happened, as a local event, and that an ark actually were floating on top of local flood waters in the mesopotamia area some thousand years ago.

  i recognized many arguments from a talk carl olof jonsson gave at a "christian freedom" seminar in sweden in, i think, 1996, so i guess that this article, too, is written by coj.

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  We could use a flood here in Montana. It's dry as hell this year. Anybody know how we could tick God off so we can get some rain up here? Any suggestions would be helpful.

  baja