Maybe its a figurative statement, hell is described as separation from GOD. I don't think it has anything to do with burning flames and evil spirits flying around asking you to be friends. I just try my best to follow the standards that God layed out for us in the bible. Everyday I fail at it miserably but I always remember Christ died so I could live without the burden of my mistakes.
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Are we going to Hell?
by catbert inlets discuss the origins of hell, and whether we are going there.
i don't want to...
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HAW...KEE...HAW....KEE Anyone else here a hockey fan?
by jgnat ini live in a sports city where hockey is the national sport.
being an oil town, we've experienced the flush of success and the misery of defeat.
we haven't seen the stanley cup since our heyday in 1990. we're so game-crazy, the city's motto is, "city of champions.".
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GO PENGUINS!!!
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deceased relatives and visiting in dreams
by snarf inmy grandmother passed away in december of this past year.
she believed that all religions were full of false teachings, therefor at times turning to supernatural beliefs.
she believed in ghosts, life after death, etc... anywho, i had a dream a couple weeks ago, very vivid, and we were riding in an old truck down a dirt road with corn growing on both sides.
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Talking to the dead....
The dead visiting you in your dreams...
COME ON PEOPLE!
I'm just bugging you guys, although I can say for myself I don't believe you are visited by the dead or that you talk to the them. I think your mind create these illusions and dreams to what you want to see.
I have dreams about my uncle who recently passed away. One of them was my entire family was sitting at a table and all of sudden my uncle walks in, just as though he never died, and everyone was looking at each other in disbelief. But it seemed so real, he seemed so real, it took me about 10 seconds after I had woken up to actually verify, yes hes dead, I went to his funeral, and his wife is still grieving over his death.
Anyways my two cents is in, I think the mind is a powerful thing and it creates things that we cannot explain. To me its kinda like the holy spirit, you know its there and it does unimaginable tasks, but man it seems like its way over our level of thinking.
Peace
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One of them JW Funerals
by mbn36 ina couple of months ago i attended a funeral with my wife at the local kingdom hall for my uncle.
its the 1st funeral i've been to and 1st kingdom hall in 5 years.
i was a jw for 17 years and now i'm a chrisitan.
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A couple of months ago I attended a funeral with my wife at the local kingdom hall for my uncle. Its the 1st funeral I've been to and 1st kingdom hall in 5 years. I was a JW for 17 years and now I'm a Chrisitan.
I had an aykward(probably not spelled right) experience, I got this nervous feeling like I wasn't welcome even though no one but my parents knew of my straying path. Lets just say I was disappointed about the whole event, I was still in shock of my uncles death but just the way everything was said by the elder giving the eulogy. He talked about my uncles life for about 4-5 minutes. They were talking about his family and life, there were chuckles, laughs and cries of joy from our family as we reminisced about the trips we would take together.
Then for the next 30-40 minutes he gave this boring talk about JW beliefs and how my uncle knew what they believed. Well no sh*t he was a JW. But he tried to say he was an excellent brother and that well Jehovah will have to look at his time sheets to see if he is resurrected. How can they subscribe to this stuff? Well your loved one died ummmmmm he should be coming back in the next life, were not too sure yet but he'll get another chance to show GOD he is loyal.
Whats this life, a practice round?
What did Christ die for then? I thought he was made a mockery of, for what? Time slips and watchtower mag placements........
I knew in my later days as a dub I was missin something very special, didn't know what it was yet, but the relationship with Christ is what I needed and its exactly what I didn't see in any of the witnesses. All they could say is that THEY(only the witnesses) have hope my uncle will be back and thats it. Someone so boldly pointed this out to my wife.
The event was cold and just left me feeling my uncle was cheated and everyone in there was as well, whats a funeral if we don't celebrate the persons life!
I just think its sad so many lives are wasted on this crap, I pray God will have mercy and that somehow they can be a part of his plan.
Ciao and thanks for listening to my rant.
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The Passion of the Christ Movie
by arwen ini am watching this movie for the first time and it has subtitles and is in another language.
i am wondering if this is the way it is or if i have rented the wrong version.
i can hardly watch it as it is very disturbing and i feel so bad for jesus.
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I thought this was a fantastic movie whether you believe in Jesus or not. It is really a movie you can only watch once. I'm a 22 year old male and this is the only movie thats brought tears to me eyes. People that have a relationship with Christ will be the most affected, as Jim Caviezel plays the role of Christ and well is basically beaten to death and then crucified. I just imagined having someone more important than my friends or family members being tortured because he wanted to sacrifice himself so we can live without the burden of our imperfection. If you choose not to watch it because it is gory thats fine, I would never impose this movie on someone because they are a Christian.
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Vancouver, Canada - Born and raised Calgarian
by Mr.D.Frost ini've stumbled upon this site, while reading many articles after giving up trying to find out what time the memorial is.
though after reading allot over the last little while.
i am not too concerned about the memorial either anymore.
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howdy bro, I'm from surrey bc, I mainly attended the langley brookswood congregation, its good to see a few locals
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Anyone here from British Columbia, Canada
by mbn36 in.
just wondering if anyone here was from british columbia.
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What part of BC, im from the lower mainland, Surrey to be exact.
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Experience with a so called "worldy" person
by mbn36 ini just wanna share an experience of mine, i hope it will help anyone with a related issue.
im 20 years old, i still live with my parents and go to school full-time.
for 17 years i was a jw on and off.
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I just wanna share an experience of mine, I hope it will help anyone with a related issue. Im 20 years old, I still live with my parents and go to school full-time. For 17 years I was a JW on and off.
When I was 18 I met a lovely girl at work, who just happened to be a Mennonite Christian, what luck eh. The most beautiful and wonderful girl I ever met is the enemy. We both knew are belief differences but still persued a relationship, the draw was just too strong to put aside. After the 1st couple months things were cool and then the ideological fights started and it was like God himself was testing my spirituality. At this point my parents were just deciding to go back to meetings after a year's absence and then they found out about my interest in a certain person that the Borg just wont approve of. Heck if she wasnt religious they probably wouldnt have a beef with her at all, they probably just would've wanted me to slowly reel her in.
Her and I both couldn't take the fact that our relationship wouldnt work with this kind of indifference. She was absolutely sure of her faith and belief, while I was still a little foggy with mine, so she was counting on a change from my side, or rather a decision as long as I was happy with it.
We broke off our relationship after a few months, but a few days later we got back together again, trying to reconile and understand each other, even though we still knew it was hard. Aftter those few days it was almost as if God was telling me, "don't give up on this". I started attending her church to get more details, seeing as how I had never known what modern christians believed in. This was an experience I tell you, I thought they were the biggest bunch of weirdos. Telling my parents about this was the only thing I could do, it was bothering me to much, it brought them to a point of breakdown, seeing as how I was just an apostate to them. My dad threatened to kick me out of the house if I didnt stop going to her church. That night hearing what they had to say about what she believed was so heartbreaking, i dropped to the ground, i lost all feeling in my legs. Even though I couldnt defend my reasoning for going, because I really had trouble believing what they had to say, (eg. trinity, the diff. style of singing and such) I kept it up. Then some weeks later I had seen my dad got into a major depression and with drinking. It didnt help that his dad died just a few weeks before. I had to make a decision. I told her that I was going back to the meetings. She was devastated, and things just broke down, it was almost as if we became bitter enemies. But after I did that, something wasnt right, I didnt want that, my heart didnt want it. I never could step foot in a kingdom hall again, it was a strange sensation, something was almost physically holding me back.
After some talk we got back together, I decided to go to her church again, determined to find something.
Another 6 months later, we came to a point whereI had to make up my mind, I either commit to the JW faith or change to a christian. It was great to be with her but something was saying, this just isnt right, I felt like i was actually going to die for choosing to be with her and not follow the JW's . A few days later where there was still some comm. between me and here, we couldnt stand being apart. We were comparing our bibles, when I started noticing the little differences that the NWT bible has from the NIV version which didnt make logical sense. I prayed to God to help me with it I and asked if he could just come into my life and fix this mess of a faith I had. Almost instantly my mind opened up, I was looking at what the JW's were saying about blood, heavenly hope, and all of there crap and decided THIS ISNT FOR ME.
It felt as if this huge brick came off my chest, I was finally unplugged from the collective. From then on I was born again, I was a new person, I actually had a relationship with Christ. For once religion wasnt just listening to a bunch of old farts continue to rant about being a slave for Jehovahs great and mighty organization. It was about how much love Christ displayed for me in his sacrifice and the freedom he gave me and the rest of humanity. From this point I was able to share my experience with my girlfriend and instantly I could learn and actually believe where she was coming from. I still have some conflicting issues from my childhood, the memories and thoughts just dont completly disappear, i dont think they ever will. It almost feels like im learning to walk again with a replacement pair of legs.
My parents have become more understanding of my situation even thou they still dont fully approve of it. My girlfriend and I have been dating for 2 years now, and I can say I love her to pieces and want to spend the rest of my life with her. As your reading this you may think as a lot of people have, that i was coaxed into this or just doing it to be with her. Your right, for the first few months I was, but from when I decided I didnt want to attend the meetings anymore, I was seriously striving to search for a relationship with god, even at the expense of my girlfriend. I felt so depressed and empty when i was spiritually inactive.
As a christian, life has never been better, the ability for free thought and a relationship with God, is priceless, I still think it is one of the most important things the JW's are missing. Their stupid time slips and magazine placements are the only things that count, its sad really.
Now here I am surviving what I thought was going to kill me. I never ever thought things would turn out the way they did, I thought our relationship was doomed to fail no matter what. I thank God all the time for the strength to persevere when i needed it.
Thanks for listening.
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Anyone here from British Columbia, Canada
by mbn36 in.
just wondering if anyone here was from british columbia.
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Just wondering if anyone here was from British Columbia.