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  Is it possible for an apostate to get reindoctrinated?

  by foolsparadise in

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  and if so why?.

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  mamochan13

  Great thread, and Teary and others doing the "dual personality" thing - thanks for a well-needed laugh.

  I think people must define apostate by degree. Are you apostate when you simply leave the religion? Possibly not. But when you put up your first Christmas tree, have you crossed the line? Not necessarily. Early JWs celebrated Christmas. How about actively debating and refuting JW propaganda? Does that make you an apostate? Depends. Degree comes into play again. Do you wear a T-shirt and disrupt a JW meeting or protest outside a KH? Or do you simply quietly advocate the "real truth" to family and friends or in written word?

  I define myself as an apostate because I left the faith and have gradually formed a set of beliefs that is quite different. I don't actively try to refute JWs or prosetilize [sp?], but I would never go back. One of my daughters, on the other hand, I think may be in danger of going back even though she doesn't believe most of what JWs teach, but still feels the need to fill some spiritual void.
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  "The Simpsons" - Is Ned Flanders based on a Jehovah's Witness? Did you have one?

  by Witness 007 in

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  a self serving, self rightoues, judgemental fool who's favourite swear word is "fudge" did you know any "flanders" types at the kingdom hall.

  we had a special pioneer who would mention "the wonders of jehovah's creation"...while we were cleaning the kingdom hall toilets!!!

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  Nah. Flanders is still too nice a guy, and he doesn't force others to conform to his religion. I've known a few other religious groups like him. They are very vocal but still seem to respect the right of others to believe differently.
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  Can you recommend some movies/videos?

  by OnTheWayOut in

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  an ex-jw meetup group i attended just watchted worlds apart together and the host wants to do this type of thing more often.. i would love to see religulous, but the group would be divided on such a movie.. i suggested the documentary, jesus camp and september dawn.. do you have any suggestions i can pass along?.

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  The Village - I thought about JWs the whole time...

  Der Verdener Worlds Apart...worth seeing. A JW girl who has to choose.

  The Devil's Playground. Really interesting documentary about the Amish. Very reminiscent.

  Also reminiscent, a book by Jody Picoult, Plain Truth. I listen to all my books on audio CD now. This one really brought me back my upbringing...but it was a very positive slant about the Amish and how they view shunning, not as punitive as JWs.

  I'm only touching on JW-related movies, of course.
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  Legend, Etta James in sad decline of health

  by BluesBrother in

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  only 72, it is a shame when relatives haggle over your money..but this woman could sing in a way that made your hair stand on end..i only wish that i could have seen her in live concert.. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-12189910.

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  so sad. What an incredible woman.
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  little cantleave wants to say hi

  by nugget in

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  my son wants to say hi to everyone on the forum.

  as one of the main drivers to us exiting the cult he is very excited about never going to a meeting again.. if i knew how to load pictures i would let you see his plan for christmas lights next year.

  apparently we are having a sleigh with reigndeers.

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  Little Cantleave - you are free now and so are mom and dad. You are going to have a great, normal, life and you will learn what it means to love unconditionally (if you don't know what that means, ask your mom to explain!)
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  1969 Kingdom Ministry PDF

  by cabasilas in

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  for those interested in collecting the pdfs of the kingdom ministry for research purposes.. as is well known, the watchtower library cd-rom starts its coverage of kms in 1970. however, the kms from 1966 to 1969 show a bit more of the excitement relating to the prediction that 6,000 years of man's existence would run out in the year 1975.. the 1969 kingdom ministry (51 mb) can be downloaded here:.

  http://www.megaupload.com/?d=hrm4yyx7.

  the scans were done and shared by invetigator74.

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  I get sick every time I read this KM. It really messed up my life, because I took all that pioneering garbage to heart. I wouldn't be financially devastated and losing my house right now if I had gone to University back then.
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  Generation teaching - conversation I just had with my dad.

  by cult classic in

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  so, went to the dc 2 days this weekend.

  still have lots of family in and had to put in a cameo for family who had parts on the program and drama.

  i left after the drama today and just spoke with my dad who is inactive and supposedly enlightened about all things jw.

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  Sometimes I'm just in awe of how the JW control at the top are able to convince the rank and file. I remember drinking the koolaid and spouting the same, "if you only heard the talk you'd understand perfectly, because it made so much sense." Or, "if you just could talk to Bro, X, he could explain it to you." Or, if you only watched the DVD, you'd understand." Of course, it made no sense to anyone with a brain. But thousands and thousands of us believed it.
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  Restrictions on sanitation supplies at a$$emblies

  by WTWizard in

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  now that the grand boasting sessions are well under way, now is a good time to discuss what they are restricting on supplies there.

  the "one towel" rule is quite famous by now.

  however, i have heard scattered reports that they are rationing things like toilet paper as well.

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  The paper on the mirrors was only in the "sisters" bathroom, because they were the frivolous ones who would spend hours looking at themselves in the mirror, instead of remaining in their seats and being indoctrinated, if they weren't prevented from doing so. I'm surprised they didn't make gender restrictions on the sanitation supplies, too, since it's only "sisters" who use lots of TP in their mind.
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  Your favorite JW'isms...."Brother leave it in Jehovah's hands" Post yours.

  by UnConfused in

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  bring back the memories.

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  mamochan13

  Don't be stumbled by imperfect men
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  That doesn't sound cultish at all...

  by Mickey mouse in

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  .... "this is an unofficial group for fans of the watchtower.

  keep all comments upbuilding and encouraging please.

  no debates or questionings or criticisms are allowed.

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  mamochan13

  cantleave - that group of little children singing reminded me of the days when my own little girls would sing with their cousins and family. They loved it, and it was really touching and beautiful and reinforced the trust we felt in our belief and in our community. But soon afterwards their mother was DF'd and the song was silenced. Even once I was reinstated we never again joined the family singing like this. My family's treatment of me made it impossible to ever trust again.