I will never attend another Memorial again. It was my refusal to attend the Memorial that was my breaking point. When I left for good. Why would I ever want to go back?
mamochan13
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Re: Will you attend the Memorial this year? Why? Why not?
by check inyou all had some interesting thoughts on that jw memorial thread.
some of you mentioned that you are going so that you can set some sort of example.
i gather that some of you believe that by going and eating, you are somehow showing them they can (or should) do it too.. that really confuses me.
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2013 District Convention Program: Gods Word is Truth!
by bats in the belfry in.
unlike god's word, that jws believe to be absolute truth, any one of their directives given at the 2013 district convention could be subject to misinterpretation.. .
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mamochan13
An auditorium full of mindless robotic drones chanting, "We have the truth! We have the truth! We have the truth!"
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More connect-the-dots madness...
by cedars inthat's right, a knife and a baby in close proximity.... .
http://www.jw.org/assets/m/ijw13fr/502013178/ijw13fr_id-502013178_e/502013178_e_cnt_1.pdf.
anything goes, so long as you're proving how "wise" king solomon was.. .
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mamochan13
this is revolting. Yes, they've always loved their scary pictures. I was fascinated by them myself as a child. One of my daughters loved the "cut the baby in half" story, too. But to invite a child to actively become engaged in drawing these kinds of pictures is a different thing. Talk about promoting hatred.
As a psychologist, if I see children drawing violent pictures that depict death, I worry about their mental health.
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The Mormons would not let me speak at my Dad's funeral
by FormerMormon in--because i no longer nelieve.
i was excommunicated for "apostasy".
that was their rationale for not allowing me to speak at his funeral last month.
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mamochan13
It makes me sad for you. I went throuigh this last year with my brother and my mom. My JW family was so worried that I might want to speak at my brother's funeral and say something that would "bring reproach" (or, god forbid, one of his worldly friends might speak) that they went overboard to ensure the funeral was held in such a way that only the JW message was heard and I was muzzled.
It's so freaking insane. But it's how cults manage funerals. It's a time they can invoke maximum hurt.
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Recorded Judicial Meeting by 19 year old
by BlindersOff1 in.
he runs circles around the dogmatic elders.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lko0vmqfyau.
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mamochan13
I think he actually harms his own cause. It seems like he deliberately set the elders up and comes across as being a smart aleck who is asking to get DF'd. It does fit the negative perception JWs have of apostates.
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It's a miserable life --- Really?
by Lady Lee ini was at the check-out counter sitting in my wheelchair, listening to the customer behind me talk to the cashier.
he looks at her and says she looks tired.
she rings through one more of my purchases and she it has been a long day.
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mamochan13
Thank you, LL. Good lesson
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Petra/Vulcan/-Just coffee talk!
by Atlantis ini thought i might take a few minutes to sit down with the members here and have a cup of coffee with you, and introduce myself and my daughter debbie (petra), and i am john posting as (vulcan).
now i can't type worth anything so thats why i have petra do it.-we would like to thank mr. simon for his hospitality and if it is easier for us to post using the login atlantis uses, then that is ok!
there are 4 of us here using the same computer and it might be easier that way to keep track.
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mamochan13
Your hair is a work of art, Petra. No wonder the elders didn't like it - that religion hates anything creative or artistic!
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Do you think those at the top realise that it's their fault - suicide as a result of being disfellowshipped?
by jambon1 ini have been stunned to hear of two suicides in our area recently.. this adds to the other 3 that i have known of from the past.. the two recent suicides resulted from 1-the person being gay & hearing a horrific talk at the kingdom hall & 2-the person with problems who was disfelloshipped & then took his life the next week.. it astonished me that jw's in general don't rebel against this sort of thing.
it's an appalling lack of support which leads people to feel distressed, abandoned & unloved.
how the witnesses in the locality can just sail on without giving the cruelty of these measures serious though is beyond me.
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mamochan13
good points, Sab. The rejection by family, the destruction of the security of family love (2nd and 3rd on Maslow's heirarchy of needs) are what takes away the will to live. And since they view anyone outside the religion as being as good as dead, especially if you are a "sinner" I think they are in effect acknowledging that DFing kills.
Any organization has the right to decide who can be a member. But when you take that right as an excuse to sever family bonds, to treat a person as invisible, to remove that person's emotional supports (and sometimes financial), it's a different matter.
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Dear Chichi89
by Aussie Oz init looks like you are in the first stages of waking up.. you have been shocked to the core by getting disfellowshipped, what for does not really matter here.
you came to voice your feelings then die, you have voiced the feelings and then hung in there.
i am sure many are very proud of you for that, i am.. now, your thoughts of survival are turned towards your loved one, will it work?, ''i'm a jw and he is not''.... fisrt up, you are now, not a jehovah's witness.
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mamochan13
I like Oz's advice. Had I been able to hear something similar when I first got DF'd, I might have saved my marriage and avoided a world of hurt. It's good advice. Many of us here understand how conflicted the feelings are when you are thrown out yet still believe it's the truth. It's not the same process as those who wake up first. The sooner you can learn TTATT (the truth about the truth) the better.
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Have you ever shunned someone and then later regretted it?
by 00DAD inlately, i've been reading a number of thread lately that deal with this topic.
one particularly poignant experience came from simon.
in simon's story he shares: .
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mamochan13
I shunned a close friend when we were both teenagers. It felt horrible at the time. After that I tried not to be put in a similar position. I tried to find ways to at least be kind - a smile, a word. These were people I cared about, after all.