Posts by mamochan13

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Iran is so beautiful - take a quick trip ...

by fulltimestudent in

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yznhd0jgh2k&feature=share .

mamochan13

FTS, thank you for this. Realy brought home to me that we are people, no matter where we are on this earth.

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I have just been disinvited to my brother's wedding - Thanks AAWA!

by Sic Semper Tyrannis in

i am an inactive jw.

i havent been on this forum for a few months and have been lurking in others.

i have met a few people in real life and online, both on this forum and on others.

mamochan13

Ilovebirthdays - did you email the invisible president of aawa with your "story". He'll investigate, but you have no reason to worry, because it's a secret group now.

But seriously, you are an example of what so many of us have been saying - the Facebook damage is only now starting to come to light. It really distresses me to think of how many potential Judicial Committees are in formation as we speak, fueled by AAWA FAcebook screenshots.

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The Advocates for Awareness of Watchtower Abuses (AAWA) [WARNING]

by Simon in

uncensored discussions and information for anyone interested in the advocates for awareness of watchtower abuses or 'aawa' http://aawa.co/ (previously known as "the association of anti-watchtower activists http://jwactivists.org/) and how it's handled and responded to privacy issues and put people at risk:.

aawa is here!!

(the association of anti-watchtower activists)an invitation to a new effort- aawawhy when i logged onto aawa did it go to facebook ?in regards to aawaaawa - every generation needs a new revolution - thomas jeffersonnotice how the introduction of the aawa has brought out the loonies lately?will aawa become another cult?

mamochan13

Well said, Tal

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I have just been disinvited to my brother's wedding - Thanks AAWA!

by Sic Semper Tyrannis in

i am an inactive jw.

i havent been on this forum for a few months and have been lurking in others.

i have met a few people in real life and online, both on this forum and on others.

mamochan13

http://www.rabble.ca/books/reviews/2013/04/10-key-points-becoming-more-compassionate-activist

The above article is from an activist website full of excellent articles and ideas and suggestions from the experts on how to successfully mobilize for a cause. Among the many suggestions that AAWA would do well to heed is this one:

- anger may fuel and motivate your cause, but all too often the anger ends up turning against one another, and your cause burns out.

It's beginning to seem like AAWA is so caught up in their brand of "righteous" anger that everything else has no importance, including personal privacy and harm to the individual.

The group may well be able to continue on to successfully lobby for the "anti" cause, but I can't see them EVER helping exiting JWs with the current approach.

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I have just been disinvited to my brother's wedding - Thanks AAWA!

by Sic Semper Tyrannis in

i am an inactive jw.

i havent been on this forum for a few months and have been lurking in others.

i have met a few people in real life and online, both on this forum and on others.

mamochan13

This is awful. So sorry Sic Semper

Simon - I don't always agree with your decisions (not that my opinion matters), but you've made the right one here. Thank you. I just cannot believe the insensitive response Cedars keeps perpetuating.

It seems to me that paranoia is in full force. I suspect Cedars is asking Sic Semper to send details because he doesn't believe him. He has taken the stance that all posters on JWN are the enemy, and he may well be suspecting that people who come here and report that they've been outed by AAWA are making it up just to bring aawa down. Which is insane.

I've come to the conclusion that although AAWA states that their mission is twofold: to raise awareness of WT bad policies and to help exiting JWs, they really are only focused on the first goal. Their actions have shown that they are willing to justify any collateral damage to individuals for the sake of their "remarkable" goal of bringing down the WT. I just do not get why they refuse to fix the Facebook thing, so that's the only explanation I can come up with.

Volunteers are told that they must link to the AAWA facebook account, or create a fake account. I didn't realize until I read this thread that fake Facebook accounts are actually against the TOS. Another thing that is making me take another step back.

I believe some of the best and most effective forms of activism begin in grassroots. AAWA has discounted the grassroots and instead has set themselves up above all that. That they are labelling the ex-JW community here as enemies speaks volumes.

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Your worst convention experience.

by zeb in

by a split second rescuing our handicapped son from being pushed down the stairs by a flood of sisters rushing out to see as the drama had started.. the main offender being a special pioneer..

mamochan13

I had a number of bad ones. ONe that comes to mind tonight is the year they decided that strollers were dangerous and not allowed. I had a 6-month old baby and had to travel to another city for the district convention. I recall climbing stairs and walking the aisles with a crying baby and my arms ready to fall off. I was so angry that we were not allowed to have a stroller to walk our babies or put them to sleep. Stupid elders and their stupid decisions.

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How to identify Publishers who know TTATT

by His Excellency in

jw
friends

since coming to know ttatt, i have always wondered if there are others in the congregation who also share similar experience with me, are there pointers to identifying others who are also faking meeting attendance and fs activities..

mamochan13

It would be nice to know...but...

I recall when I was younger, a very dear elder who I loved and respected, had a falling out with the rest of the elders. He fought back by never singing at the meetings, by refusing to do anything publicly to support the religion. The story that went around was that he had allowed himself to be stumbled. He wasn't removed as an elder for some reason, but there were some restrictions, as I recall. He sent his son to university, which was a biggie in those days. Even though I was a loyal dub (raised that way) I was drawn to him and deeply respected him.

I now realize that he was probably the first "apostate" I ever met. He never left the org, died and was funeralized as a JW. But I now wish I would have had some REAL conversations with him.

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If you started an organisation (related to exposing the Watchtower, helping Jw's who are disfellowshipped, or any other worthy cause).. What would it be called and what would you aim to achieve?

by The Quiet One in

jw
friends

...?.

mamochan13

I agree - excellent name. It sends a positive message of hope and healing, while clearly pinpointing the WT as a negative. The acronym makes it doubly genius!

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I am not sure what to do......

by Iamallcool in

let me tell you a very weird story, .

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recently, i met a nice good looking lady that share the same first and last name as that ugly lady.

mamochan13

hmm...so you really hanker after the lady who wants to make sexy symbols but who looked ugly, when instead what you have is the nice looking lady who may or may not be the sexy symbol lady and probably is not. What a dilemma!

**Solution** write a letter to Penthouse!!!

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Problems with the "Bogus AWAA Fan Page"..

by OUTLAW in

good afternoon jwn... .

i`ve spent the morning and part of my afternoon... getting to the bottom of... why names were added to the awaa fan page... it`s a dangerous thing to happen in our world... faders can be outed,we can lose,family,friends... the results can be an absolute disaster... .

aawa "did not" create the facebook awaa fan page.

mamochan13

Well said, DAgney. I"ve been thinking how disappointing this has all been. I hope AAWA learns from this as it grows. They've made some serious missteps, and it's unfortunate they are choosing not to restore credibility by taking ownership. Time will tell, I guess.