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  What should be on a JW.com T-Shirt?

  by TR in

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  here's some ideas:.

  i lost my religion at jw.com!.

  jw.com- cult busters!.

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  Simon - any feed back on the t-shirts yet?

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  Jesus A WOMAN?

  by ballistic in

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  was jesus a woman?.

  recently, at a theological meeting in rome, scholars had a heated debate on.

  this subject.

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  Was Jesus a woman?
  Recently, at a theological meeting in Rome, scholars had a heated debate on
  this subject. One by one, they offered their evidence.

  Three proofs that JESUS WAS HISPANIC:
  1. His first name was Jesus.
  2. He was bilingual.
  3. He was always being harassed by the authorities.

  But then there were equally good arguments that JESUS WAS BLACK:
  1. He called everybody "brother."
  2. He liked Gospel
  3. He couldn't get a fair trial.

  But then there were equally good arguments that JESUS WAS JEWISH:
  1. He went into His Father's business.
  2. He lived at home until he was 33.
  3. He was sure his Mother was a virgin, and his Mother was sure he was God.

  But then there were equally good arguments that JESUS WAS ITALIAN:
  1. He talked with his hands.
  2. He had wine with every meal.
  3. He used olive oil.

  But then there were equally good arguments that JESUS WAS A CALIFORNIAN:
  1. He never cut his hair.
  2. He walked around barefoot.
  3. He started a new religion.

  But then there were equally good arguments that JESUS WAS IRISH:
  1. He never got married.
  2. He was always telling stories.
  3. He loved green pastures.

  But perhaps the most compelling evidence that JESUS WAS A WOMAN:
  1. He had to feed a crowd at a moment's notice when there was no food.
  2. He kept trying to get the message across to a bunch of men who JUST DIDN'T
  GET IT!
  3. Even when He was dead, He had to get up because there was more work for him
  to do.

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  What should be on a JW.com T-Shirt?

  by TR in

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  here's some ideas:.

  i lost my religion at jw.com!.

  jw.com- cult busters!.

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  They have a couple of quotes that are famous across England:

  1. They say "I'm glad my brain is washed from this wicked system of things" - so the T-shirt could say "My brain was washed and I'm still wringing it out!"

  2. They say "religion a crutch? - I'll use a crutch or whatever it takes to get me through this worldly system" so the T-shirt could say "I didn't wait for the new system to throw my crutch away"

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  What should be on a JW.com T-Shirt?

  by TR in

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  here's some ideas:.

  i lost my religion at jw.com!.

  jw.com- cult busters!.

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  ballistic

  fair play si, you've got some guts (especially if you're doing this at your own KH)!

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  What should be on a JW.com T-Shirt?

  by TR in

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  here's some ideas:.

  i lost my religion at jw.com!.

  jw.com- cult busters!.

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  ok...

  DISFELLOWSHIPPED:
  "the truth will set you free"

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  Jehovah's Witnesses Adjusted My Mind
  But I Decided To Adjust My Reality

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  XJW
  I've seen the new light

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  God Loves You
  Stop Punishing Yourself

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  Stupid things that happened as a Witness...

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  anyone got any stupid questions they were asked or things that happened as a witness?.

  when i was at school, a kid asked me "if you don't celebrate birthdays, how do you know how old you are?".

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  The stupidest thing that happened on field service was when our CO insisted it was illegal to take 3 persons in the back of a car (which is not true unless specified in your insurance) so it left me having to get back on my bike and pedal 5 miles to the territory.

  But then again perhaps it was me that was stupid, I should have knocked a door first in order to be allowed to count the trip!!!

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  When God created Adm, did he knw that Adam wd sin?

  by D wiltshire in

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  when god created adam and eve did he foreknow that they would sin?.

  this is taken from the reasoning book:.

  when god created adam, did he know that adam would sin?.

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  In answer to your hypothetical question:
  God exists outside of space-time because he created it and is not a product of it; therefore he sees all of space time in one lump and would have to take a human perspective by entering the universe himself in order to experience time in a serial manner that we do.

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  Stupid things that happened as a Witness...

  by ballistic in

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  anyone got any stupid questions they were asked or things that happened as a witness?.

  when i was at school, a kid asked me "if you don't celebrate birthdays, how do you know how old you are?".

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  Anyone got any stupid questions they were asked or things that happened as a Witness?

  When I was at school, a kid asked me "If you don't celebrate birthdays, how do you know how old you are?"

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  What really gets me going

  by ballistic in

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  i have gone through various emotions including anger at the wtbts for all that i went through while growing up only to be disfellowshipped at 22.. my net result is a dead father due to the blood issue and a split family and, of course, years of wasted time.. i would like to say, however, that i am not angry with all witnesses and i am not a conspiracist who believes the leaders have a hidden agenda.. i believe that informed persons should be able to join the witnesses if they believe it is right for them.. what i hate though is the fact that thousands of children, like i was, are still indoctrinated from birth.

  they are told "we don't baptise babies because they are too young to choose it for themselves.

  " but in reality, what choice are you really giving a child who by the age of 13 would have experienced: 3380 hours of meetings, 832 hours of larger assemblies, possibly 1560 hours of field service, at least 2028 hours of personal study (watchtower, book study and personal study) and more importantly, what choice does a child have who is told they have an open mind but who is never allowed examine religions or persons with opposing views?.

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  they do conceal information for the sake of preserving the image and interests of the organization and their hold on power.

  
  I agree with this also, but in the sense that "they know not what they do".
  I believe the organisation to be like a machine gone wrong, like a frankenstiens monster which is out of control.
  The basic component which facilitates it being a machine is self-replication (accomplished through preaching and the teaching of offspring).
  This growth mechanism is defended by safety protocols which dis-allow members to search for alternatives or even question their own beliefs.
  And finally, the force or fuel motivating them is religion and all that it encompasses (fear of loosing one's life, fear of God, and in the case of witnesses fear of loosing friends and family).
  I am trying to make this brief, but I feel that the organisation has the "recipe" for controling all of it's members including the leaders in such a way that it is self-perpetuating and self-deceiving.
  Maybe the first "bible students" had no idea what it would become, and as has been stated before they would all be disfellowshipped today for what they believed.
  Another component which makes the truth so dangerous is that the beliefs themselves change to match the circumstances, and as you mentioned, that the history of these changes is not only not evident but is condoned as part of the process itself.
  I have a lot more I would love to fit in here, perhaps I will write a whole new post on it when I have time.
  For now, lets just say my anger I spoke of earlier could be classed as "Rage Against The Machine".

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  to all who were DF'd

  by somebody in

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  hi folks,.

  i'm doing some interesting research on the procedure of reinstatement back into the org.. if anyone here can relate how many months/years passed by from the time you got df'd, till the time you got reinstated, it would be very helpful.

  also include how often elders met with you, if you attended meetings regularly during the time you were df'd, and if you approached the elders for reinstatement(and how many times you approached them), or they approached you.

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  Just a bit of information for your research:
  During the 1990's, the policy of never calling to visit disfellowshipped persons changed. They would still be listed as "do not calls" for the witnesses, however a meeting would be held by the body of elders once a year to discuss all of the disfellowshipped and d-a persons in their teritory.
  At this meeting, the known circumstances of each individual would be discussed and, if thought appropriate, two elders with good experience would be assigned to visit a given individual. The visit would normally take place during field service times (such as Saturday and Sunday mornings).
  In the 8 years I have been out, they have managed to find me at my new address for this special visit once.
  From what I remember, they offered a study and help with giving up smoking and made the point that the longer I stayed away, the more I would loose the truth and my wish to return. [THEY GOT THAT RIGHT]. The conversation ended when I stated that I had prayed to God earnestly for help and guidance and for God to show me where my problem was and the following week I was disfellowshipped. They didn't really know what to say to that.

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