i had a fantastic holiday in florida with some good friends back in 2000 - 3 couples and a single lass.
the link below to the news story was the seventh member of our party.. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/nottinghamshire/3539662.stm.
feels really weird - was looking through some video footage of the holiday to try and get some extra pictures of her, for her best friend.. what could possibly have been going through his mind when he did this ??
I hope there is some way to sue them for that. That is such an invasion of privacy and then they made money off of something that was sacred and to have it shown all over TV. Not that it was something bad to show but right now the immediate family needed to see that and not the whole world. And it should have been left up to the family if they wanted to show it to the world or not.
Sorry about your friend. My prayers are with you and her family.
i don't know how many of you went through this, but did you have to go to a special classroom with other jws in it for the national anthem?.
i remember encountering this, and i thought it was weird.
i remember being told not to be in the classroom, but this was a classroom!
None of the schools I went to had that room. I had to go to whatever teacher didn't feel like going to the (x-mas,pep rally, against JW rule entertainment) they were having that day. One time I think it was a x-mas program and my teacher couldn't find anyone else that was staying in their room that day so she had to miss the program to "JW-sit" me. Oh did I tell you I WAS NOT the only JW at my school. I wonder where they were. HMMMM.....Why was I such an ignorant obedient dub?
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I wonder if she got in trouble for giving her consent at first and then changed her mind after the "support" was given. She was probably pulled into the lil back room.
i just got word that protesters have been allowed on the "cow palace" convention center property (near san francisco) with a valid permit.
see the link below for a the happy jw news release on this convention.
http://www.sanmateocountytimes.com/stories/0,1413,87~11268~2309259,00.html
Elsewhere, you mean the borg didn't ban all its members from going see the Passion. I asked my mom if she wanted to go see a movie about Jesus' life and I got the whole boring speech about it not coming from NY/GB so she didn't want to see it. Maybe its a "conscience" matter.
this is my 100th post - only 13276 more and i'll catch simon.
I just recently got out of the newbie status too. But my question is where can I find an avatar? I went to Yahoo and they wanted me to do all kinds of pick this/pick that look stuff and I got frustrated and said I just won't get an avatar but I see such cute ones on here that I still kinda want one but I don't want to have to design it myself.
let's assume that there is a creator of life who gots things started eons ago.
that's my persuasion, although i am not actively religious.. one major problem with belief in a creator is that he/she/it is supposed to be benevolent, loving and caring.
many evangelical christians feel he has helped them personally in various ways, emotionally, even financially.
One day when talking to my brother about biblical things he said in layman terms (hoping God doesn't strike me down right now as I type this) that God made "a bet" with Satan to see if Job would weaken and "curse God and die". We all know Job didn't do this but God knowing all things already knew Job wasn't going to weaken but allowed him to go through all this anyway. He did get his blessings in the end, but my question is, if God already knows who's going to make him happy and who he is going to have to destroy in the end, WHY NOT GO AHEAD AND GET IT OVER WITH???
It's like a scene from a movie where the person is tortured until he gives some info or dies or escapes. God already knows how the end is going to be, just go ahead and kill the evil ones, and let the meek possess the earth. Kill Satan and be done with it. When he got mad with the people during Noah's time he caused the flood. Then Sodom and Gomorrah destroyed. Ok then he sends Jesus Christ to die for all sinners. So if all sinners are accounted for by Jesus Christ death just go ahead and KILL SATAN or lock him the abyss or where ever he's going after the 1000 yrs of peace. Why does God test us imperfect humans like this and he knows we are weak? To win a bet with Satan just like with Job. He wants to prove to Satan that with all the tricks and temptations he gets people with some are still going to remain faithful to God. So why keep this going? I feel in my heart that I may not make it into this "new system" or "paradise" or even have the "heavenly hope" so for those that are going to be in those places go ahead and end it for their sakes. Why continue to let new lives(babies) enter into this wicked world everyday to suffer with all the evilness thats only getting worse and worse everyday?
And if JW's are the only true religion approved by God go ahead and wipe out everybody else or make everyone be a JW. I mean when they were building the tower of Babel(sp) didn't he confuse the languages so that the tower could stop progress? So if he was able to do that, he could make everyone be a JW if he wanted to.
This may be a bad example but its like Kingpin dealer letting lil pip squeak dealer get all the sales he can and Kingpin knowing full well he can get rid of lil pip squeak whenever he wants too but allows him to continue making his lil sales until finally he gets tired of lil pip squeak and then sends his "right hand man" to go get rid of him.
It's times like this when I just sit back and look at the world and the situation its in and wonder why do I want to stay here? Why do I want to continue here? But I have to stay here and suffer along with everyone else until Jehovah sends Jesus to get rid of lil pip squeak.
i have been reading the thead on jw suicide the last two days and i have to admit, i am boiling mad, angry, and literally have thoughts of wanting to put my hands around some of the jw's who have abused so many......lol!!!!!!!
i realize this is not at all funny, but i do laugh at how i let this get to me to the point of fantazing of slapping some of the "higher than thou" jw's i have ran across in my life and those whom some of you decribed.
i read scully's story and wanted to choak the ones who did not pass her the emblems at the memorial.. i get so mad when i read how some of the jw's want to pass judgement on the one's who have committed suicide , saying they will not be resurrected.
Yes I do. I try to control it but when on this board and reading about alot of things others have been through and still going through from the holier-than-thou JW's I get mad. I just finished reading CoC and I can't even describe the anger I felt the way they treated Raymond Franz and this coming from the organization that is Jehovah's Mouthpiece. I refuse to get started with my ranting and raving today, but yes I do have anger issues because of mistreatment by JW's especially those in my immediate family that treat me like I'm Satan when people of the "world" think I'm an angel. Not bragging or anything but I do feel I'm a good person and the way the JW's in my family treat me, if for some miracle I was ever reinstated I can say I would then disfellowship myself from talking to them. I'm the same person I was then and I'm the same person now and you couldn't talk to me then because of a title I didn't have so now that I have that title I still don't want you talking to me.
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when you get up in the morning, how long does it take you to get to your computer and check things out on this board?
i mean, do you have breakfast first, get washed first....or are you just programmed to turn on your computer and check out the topics the moment you get up and then get on with your day.
I'm like Bubbamar, I don't have internet at home and I'm only able to check out the board when at work or when I go to the library(where I am now). I kinda look forward to seeing what's on everyone else's mind most of the time. Especially when I start a weird topic, I like to see how many responses I will get to it. But this board and another one I frequent are both something I log on too as soon as I get a chance to when I get to work everyday. And the days I'm off I come here to the library which is right around the corner from my apt.
what does the wts say happens to someone who claims to be annointed and partakes at the memorial if that person really isn't annointed?
does someone who is honestly mistaken about being annointed meet the same fate as one cynically claiming to be annointed?
this has probably been discussed before, but i can't seem to find it.. thanks all!.
From reading Frannie Bannie(sp) post and some others I've had a chance to read from time to time. I kinda agree with Elsewhere and I kinda don't. If the elders for some reason in their minds don't feel you're annointed they will question you to death and make you even question whether you're annointed or not. So if someone is really old and been a witness a long time they probably wouldn't question it, but if someone that is in their maybe 30's or 40's partakes and may be questionable to the elders, IMO they probably will pull that person to the side and ask them what makes them think they're one of the anointed and if their answer isn't up to par then the elder will probably write the GB and get a vote on it. The GB will probably make their vote according to how much time and pioneering the sis/bro has done.
But that's just my opinion.
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Jehovah's Witnesses see voting as divisiveThousands gather hereover four weekends Thursday, July 29, 2004 David Briggs Plain Dealer Religion Reporter Call it a campaign strategist's nightmare: More than 30,000 people coming to a central location in Cleveland over four weekends, and hardly a single vote to be had.In this most political of seasons, where small percentages of votes in key states could prove decisive, the Jehovah's Witnesses are staying true to their theological beliefs that their kingdom is not of this world. There will be no voter registration drives for the more than 8,000 delegates at the second of the Witnesses' four district conventions, which begins Friday at the Cleveland State University Convocation Center. Neither candidate will be invited to any of the month-long series of weekend conventions, and campaign literature will be nonexistent. Voting in elections would only be divisive to their work of preparing for a biblical Armageddon that the more than 1 million Witnesses in the United States believe will usher in a time of universal peace.
 "You can't legislate love. You can't make people love each other," said Carole Johnson, 67, of North Ridgeville. "You have to do it from the heart." Jehovah's Witnesses, a true made-in-America religion, grew out of a movement that began with the end-time prophecies of William Miller, the founder of Adventism. The "Great Disappointment" of 1844 - when Miller's predictions of the Second Coming did not come true - did not deter him or others from their vision. Coming out of the Adventist tradition was Charles Taze Russell, the founder of the Witnesses. Russell set 1874 as the date for Christ's return, and 1914 for the battle of Armageddon and the beginning of Jesus' rulership on Earth. World War I seemed to confirm his prophecy, but the slogan of Russellites that "millions now living will never die" lost some impact when Russell died in 1916. After several other failed attempts to predict the end of this world, the Witnesses in the 1990s officially dismissed date setting as speculation. But the church continues to teach the end is near, creating an urgency for individuals to prepare for the coming kingdom. In their theology, there is a battle now raging between God in his heavenly kingdom, and Satan, the ruler of this world. Witnesses are called to work for God's kingdom, not to try to improve or prop up the existing system by political means, the church teaches. Jehovah's Witnesses can serve their communities as teachers, doctors or social workers, but voting, serving in the military or holding elected offices are off-limits. Let the Democrats in Boston this week tell how they will change the world. The prize Witnesses keep their eyes on is a new world where the meek, not the politically powerful, will inherit the Earth. "Our only hope lies in God's kingdom," said Blanche Bobich, 38, of North Ridgeville. Last Sunday, in a simple plain brick building next to a strip mall along Center Ridge Road in Westlake, politics was nowhere on the agenda during a typical two-hour service consisting of singing, prayer, a lecture and Bible study. Elders said each Witness is free to make his or her own decision about voting. But when asked how many of the 85 members in the Westlake congregation would vote in November, Michael Dobbs' reply was immediate: "No one." Once the church starts talking politics, the elder said, "it would be impossible" to maintain the unity and peace that he said Witnesses are trying to create throughout the world. Dobbs, 59, served 1½ years in prison as a conscientious objector to the Vietnam War. He said "The Lord's Prayer" talks of the coming Kingdom of God, and "our allegiance is toward that kingdom completely." Not all religious groups who foresee the imminent end of the world take such a hands-off approach. Seventh-day Adventists, which also grew out of the Millerite movement, say in an official statement on church-state relations that, "We should participate in the voting process available to us when it is possible to do so in good conscience." But that does not mean not voting is necessarily a hardship for Witnesses in the United States. Sociologist Rodney Stark of Baylor University, who has written about the denomination, said Witnesses share a political world view that is not much different from the perspective of many Americans toward the two parties: "A pox on all their houses." In a culture where many people believe their votes don't count, or follow along with the words of the bumper sticker "Don't vote - it just encourages them," most Witnesses probably do not think that they are missing out on much, Stark said. Rather, he said, their attitude may be more along the lines of, "That's just one more thing I don't have to do." Before she became a Witness 32 years ago, Carole Johnson not only voted for John Kennedy in 1960, but also worked for his election. She had traveled in the South, and had seen the pain of segregation, and she was hopeful Kennedy could change things. But that was the last time she voted. "I realize now no man can really solve all our problems. It hasn't been proven yet," she said. To reach this Plain Dealer reporter: [email protected], 216-999-4812 | |||||||||||||||
I realize now no man can really solve all our problems. It hasn't been proven yet," she said.
She hit the nail on the head with that statement, "No Man (in my book=GB) can really solve all our problems.
