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  Was droping bomb on Hiroshima in 1945 evil?

  by new hope and happiness in

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  sorry for such a depressing question, but i was moved by a picture i saw of the consequences.

  ( a woman carrying her child) and i realised:-.

  a) it was a civillian population.. b) i don't see how a nuclear holocaust can ever be right.. c) they could have bombed tokyo where all the generals lived but chose hiroshima.. d) the irony after the bombing america conceeded to many of japans terms.. your opinion would be valued..

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  Isn't it comforting to know that we in the 21st century have the values that are Good and True, and the values of everybody else that has ever lived are inferior to ours.

  Bombing civilian populations was the military strategy right up until the end of the Cold War. That is the fact like it or not.

  Marrying off your 12 years old daughter was normal diplomatic policy in the many centuries before the word "abuse " was even used in this connection. it is a fact like it or not.

  To judge previous generations according to our standards does not mean our moral compass is any better than theirs. What if earlier ages had the chance to judge us according to their values?? More importantly, what will future generations think of how we handled world events and the "civilisation" they will inherit from us?
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  Was droping bomb on Hiroshima in 1945 evil?

  by new hope and happiness in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  sorry for such a depressing question, but i was moved by a picture i saw of the consequences.

  ( a woman carrying her child) and i realised:-.

  a) it was a civillian population.. b) i don't see how a nuclear holocaust can ever be right.. c) they could have bombed tokyo where all the generals lived but chose hiroshima.. d) the irony after the bombing america conceeded to many of japans terms.. your opinion would be valued..

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  hamsterbait

  I just look at what the Japanese did in Manchuria Burma and their other occupied territories.

  How they treated women and child prisoners. Their emperor worship that made surrender inconceivable. How many soldiers lives would have been lost fighting their way across Japan? Truman wd not put any more lives on the line by pitying a pitiless vicious imperialistic aggressor.

  How in 1937 they came to Washington DC and cooed about wanting peaceful relations with the US as they pranted chelly tlees as symbahl of peace. Then they pulled off the Pearl Harbour Heist.

  Why should Truman say "we're so sorry for letting you be the aggressor instead of us. Can we negotiate a peace that makes you happy after all the suffering you started?"

  So: NO

  We in the west now lack any stomach to really stand up for ourselves. There is too much self effacement and giving in an inch at a time to anybody who is offended by us. We are perceived as weak and vacillating ( as Japan did in the 30s ) A big fight is in the making, and the use of lethal force will be necessary to survive - or just make the other guy think twice. We lack the stomach for it, and will probably apologise for being here in the first place.

  Even if America had not dropped the Bomb, there are plenty of enemies of democracy who view our lives as of no value and would drop as many nukes on us as they can without a qualm.
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  2014 Distict Convention. Symposium: Anticipate Future Kingdom Blessings! (part 6 "New Scrolls")

  by Splash in

  1. watchtower
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  transcript of the talk from the 2014 uk district convention (aug 2014).. sunday morning.. symposium: anticipate future kingdom blessings!

  (part 6 "new scrolls").

  (speaker not known).

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  hamsterbait

  That playlet sounds olike one of the Russian Communist Radio plays.

  Comrade 1: The beautiful full moon this evening moves me to increase my productivity in the steel plant.

  Comrade 2: I too am moved to increase my production on the communal farm.

  Camrade 1: Let us work together building the Socialist Republic so our children can be more productive too.
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  Heard Lett gave a talk also.

  by hamsterbait in

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  was this his usual delusional crap too?.

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  Was this his usual delusional crap too?
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  Sept 1 service meeting mystery revealed

  by Saltheart Foamfollower in

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  the letter has appeared at last - just for uk.

  it is a money grab for the new bethel which has been approved.

  there is a video to be shown - just watched it - brief summary of uk bethels, why current one is too small, why we need money to build a new one.

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  hamsterbait

  And yet they demanded contributions to bring foreign slaves -sorry- missionaries home to visit family at the conventions!!!
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  TAKE IT EASY!! DON'T SAY THAT AFTER A CONVERSATION!

  by NoMoreHustle in

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  this drives me insane when i am rebutted after i say "well take it easy brother so & so" after a small conversation.

  they always seem to reply "we are in jehovah's organization there is no taking it easy" or "we are in the last days brother we don't have time to take it easy".

  i guess this makes me a care-free man of the world rather than a spiritual man!!

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  At one time (usually after a CO visit) people kept saying "I just hate that word fantastic!"
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  How many Isaiah's prophecies of chapter 19 were fulfilled?

  by opusdei1972 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i have read the chapter 19 of isaiah, which scholars of high criticism believe to be authentic, of isaiah himself.

  in this chapter there are more than one prophecy for egypt.

  my question is, how many of them you found fullfilled and unfulfilled?....

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  ALL OF THEM.

  Between 1919 and 1946. How do we know? The Witchtower says so, and we can trust them, because Jehoobie and his side kick Jesus trust them.

  How do we know? Because the prophecies were fulfilled between 1919 and 1946!

  Rinse and repeat.
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  NOAH, The Movie

  by minimus in

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  i just saw it last night.. did anyone see it?.

  i gave it 2 stars.

  kinda boring and pretty much a fantasy!.

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  HISTORICAL accuracy isnt even an issue in this case. We all know the story was borrowed from the babylonians/chaldeans during the jewish stay in babylon. Science doesnt support it, and any fool should be able to see its fairytale quality, up there with Jack and the Beanstalk. (Or, JEANStalk if Morris is looking for a pair of nice tight ones!!)
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  the insanity of Sam herds talks at the convention

  by purrpurr in

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  i've picked up two that stood out to me but i'm sure others will have noticed more:.

  he gave an illustration about fearing god and he said it is like a wife who has spent all day preparing the evening meal for her husband and she hears him come home and perhaps she is trembling a bit out of fear that he might not like the meal she has cooked for him....!!!!!!!!????.

  the other was about verbal abuse and how it should not be used but rather than site the effect it has or the forms it can take he said that we shouldn't call each other " dumb dumb" or "knuckle head" .

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  Hasn't this fool heard of a microwave and cook chill meals??

  NOBODY spends all day cooking a meal for anyone!

  Why is the wife trembling? Is it time for another dose of Prozac, or wife-beating time at the OK Corral? or is she exhausted because she just put in a full day's work too.
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  When will JW Land Peak?

  by thedepressedsoul in

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  id like to start off by saying that if you look at history, every big businesses, organization etc... eventually peaks.

  people think microsoft is peaking due to competition.

  people are saying religion in general has peaked.

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  Google are already investigating new ways of connecting the 3rd world to the www.

  One is balloon ariels that will enable even remote villages wireless BB.

  Once that happens watch it all go tits up for the delusional psychos in Crooklyn Beth Hell