Any news from the Lawyer I mentioned in Toronto?
HB
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Watch Tower sues Quotes for $100,000 plus plus plus...
by Quotes incourt file no.
superior court of justice.
watchtower bible and tract society of .
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Watch Tower sues Quotes for $100,000 plus plus plus...
by Quotes incourt file no.
superior court of justice.
watchtower bible and tract society of .
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hamsterbait
A corporation or public body can own the copyright of works written by its employees.
The books are COPYRIGHT Watchtower Bible and Tract Society of Penn. That is enough under the law.
I posted a thread on this last year and Blondie posted her research to prove it. (Loving your new avatar B!)
HB (of the "too tired to decide what class I am" class)
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Acquitted from sins?
by dothemath inthis is in reference to romans 6: 7.............often quoted from the platform- "for he who has died has been acquitted from his sin"
if the talk is regarding the future of people who have died, it's evident they will all (except those committing an unforgivable sin) have a second chance.
yet other talks emphasize the necessity of living in harmony with god's standards, and that they could be subject to a severe judgment..................eccl.
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Sorry Honesty -
My point was that without Christ dying for us, nobody would be ransomed from the grave and be resurrected.
i am so frazzled today I could happily die now and not wake up!! (YOu know the feeling)
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potter and the clay
by peacefulpete ingiven the successful completion of the mapping out the chimpanzee genome(new scientist breaking news - the chimpanzee genome is unveiled), i imagine in a few years some efforts will be made to use that information to attempt to create a human/chimp hybrid.
let's fast forward a decade or two and we have succeeded in producing the first chimp hybrid with human mental abilities.
how do we treat such a being?
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Tetra S You perve!How can you be so audacious as to bring Barbie B into this?
I never even mentioned history's victims of necrophilia... Not that I condemn you. Sleep with who you want, even if they never find out.
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potter and the clay
by peacefulpete ingiven the successful completion of the mapping out the chimpanzee genome(new scientist breaking news - the chimpanzee genome is unveiled), i imagine in a few years some efforts will be made to use that information to attempt to create a human/chimp hybrid.
let's fast forward a decade or two and we have succeeded in producing the first chimp hybrid with human mental abilities.
how do we treat such a being?
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Hibiscus -
If he is the potter and we are the clay, why did the potter make some bits of clay so powerful and evil they made life torture and terror ( Look at history) for millions.
Oh I am sure you will quote St Paul who says the pot has no right to complain to God "Why did you make me like this?"
True, of course.
Hitler, Polpot, Tamerlano, Nero, Caligula, Myra Hyndley, Saddam Hussein, Osama Bin Laden are no doubt shining examples of humble humans who have never been as evil as to ask why the great potter made them the way they are.
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You Aren't Good Enough to Spend Time With Us, But Your Money Is Just Fine
by Scully inam i the only one here who has non-jw and jw siblings who exclude you from "family" social events, but see nothing wrong with asking you to contribute a significant amount of money toward gifts for jw parents who instigate your exclusion from family social events?.
quite frankly, i'm pissed off about this most recent request and i'm planning on ignoring it.
why should i give $200 of my hard earned wages to people who won't permit me in their home or speak to me?
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Necessary business in WTS parlance means MONEY = "who gets what".
DON'T EVEN SEND A REPLY.
If they then continue trying to contact you, report them to their local elders and get THEM disfellowsipped for persisting in trying to have a relationship with an apostate family member.
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The 144,000 and the Great Crowd of Revelation
by Leolaia in8-11; ch.
as in ch.
like the "great crowd", they are "of every race, language, people, and nation (cf.
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Terrible of me to skip to reply without reading much - but Ah tired Honeys an' goin' to me scratcher.
"No man was able to number." The concept of an undefined "infinity" was an anthema to greek philosophy - hence the famous mockery of it in the race between Achilles and the Tortoise: (tho I think the joke is on the non believer in infinity) Chasing the tortoise, Achilles must traverse half the distance between them, then half that distance, etc, so he will never catch up with the crawler. The writer (NOT the Apostle John, the Friend of Jesus) was simply saying that the crowd was a number bigger than anything the counting system he knew could accommodate.
Until Western Mathematics get away from Aristotle and "nature abhors a vacuum" (ergo 'nothing' is a non-existent concept) and accepted eastern ideas of '0' it was impossible to do math in the modern way.
"The Sand reckoner" ( proving for any number a, a+1 is greater), was important, but 1st cent. western mathematics had a finite system of counting)
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How Does The Watchtower "Dumb Down" Jehovah's Witnesses?
by minimus in.
do you see how they take away individuality and the allowance of personal comments from the group?
what other ways do you see that they keep the witnesses "dumb"?
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The assignments for reading in the MSchool no longer require any comment because in future times those presenting talks in DC, CA and Kingdumb Hells will have to deliver word for word what is printed in front of them as if they are saying it ad hoc from the depths of their hearts. Years ago when assigned a public talk at the HELL, and elder would have to do all his own reasearch and structure his own talk. Then they got an 'outline' - these becacame more and more prescriptive. From "find examples of ( to prove a point)" to "find examples from WT literature" to select from the following examples.The Churches, of course, are condemned by WTS for having books and schedules which prescribe what is to be said and sung in any week of the church year.
JWS will be the same in another 10 to 20 years. They are at the stage of 2nd Cent. christianity wondering 'why are we still waiting.' In another 90 years they will be scrutinizing old WT mags and books,, deciding which bits are to be promulgated as inspired UNTO the FDS and which others to be hid from the Faithful. They already quote WT as proof of a point without reference to the bible. They will create their own canon of extra-holy scriptures.
HB ( of the "don't burn all this old bedding" class)
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Acquitted from sins?
by dothemath inthis is in reference to romans 6: 7.............often quoted from the platform- "for he who has died has been acquitted from his sin"
if the talk is regarding the future of people who have died, it's evident they will all (except those committing an unforgivable sin) have a second chance.
yet other talks emphasize the necessity of living in harmony with god's standards, and that they could be subject to a severe judgment..................eccl.
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The point I take from this is that everybody will die due to inherited sin.
Whether they might be considered worthy of a resurrection will depend on what they did during their life. An over draft of sin is paid back by dying. The account is set to $0.00
In order to come back to life requires an input of credit to the account that a dead person cannot earn for himself.
Christ died to put everybody's account into credit - they then get a resurrection. Like Adam they can then blow it, or continue to get interest through faith.
HB (of the "are humans beings bullshitting, or are they cleverer than ancient gods" class)
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About the Quotes Lawsuit
by Mastodon ini don't know if anyone proposed this already and i don't know if it will help at all but... what if we all wrote letters to the court in defense of quotes and how it has been of benefit t each and everyone of us.
at the very least we may get some attention and (again, i'm not sure if this will be beneficial or not) try to get some media coverage showing how the wt is afraid of people reading anything that may present them in a 'bad light'.
i don't know, maybe i'm talking out of my ass here, but we might get some people to actually go on the web and do some real research on the wt.
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That is exactly the same tactic the WTS uses against abuse victims in lawsuits.
They tell everyone in the pedos congo to write a letter sayying what a FINE CLEAN UPSTANDING member of the congygation he is. HOW HE SHARES IN THE PREACHING WORK AND EVERYBODY TRUSTS him.
If they see that as a fair tactic, why not?
Get the address prontinto. And while we're at it , why don't we slow things down at Canada Bethel, by a letter writing campaign along the lines they did with the president of Malawi and Cameroon?
HB