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Bible Error: Peter Denies Knowing Jesus

by JosephAlward in

in the dialogue below, jesus scoffs at peters claim that he will give his life for jesus.

he tells peter that before the sun comes up in the morning--before the rooster crows--peter would that very night pretend he did not even know jesus.. .

readers should note especially that in the john passage below, jesus is predicting that the rooster would not crow until after peter has denied knowing jesus three times.. .

Bang

It seems to me Joseph as if your reading and hearing with the flesh and not the spirit. It's intended as a spiritual reading, simple as that. The whole thing is.

Consider - the other disciple spoke to "the maid at the door", Peter's soul, not yet spouse of the Spirit. His soul was "at the door", unsure to be in (as the other disciple) or out, like the elder brother (of the prodigal son) who wouldn't "enter the house". Peter first denied Him before "the maid at the door".

Can you see anything in regard to the sevants/officers warming 'themselves' - or is it to be another historical critique of a spiritual story?

Bang

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The Great Crowd on the move

by Atreyu in

the watchtower 5/1-02 presents a new understanding regarding where the great crowd is rendering sacred service.

this is most interesting since it concerns a very central teaching of jw but the inconsistencies are still there!.

why was the great crowd placed in the court of gentiles?.

Bang

How can they spend time developing details about a ridiculous invention of their own minds.
Surely some must be thinking "what the f*** is this about?"

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Can any Witness possibly anwser this question?

by jerome in

hello all... i came across this line of questioning many months on the inet so i decided that i would submit just this once to peer pressure and make a usefull contribution to the board.. here is the question... is jesus just "a god?".

many of the regular inet surfers would have come across this line of questioning before so if you have you could just sit back and relax and read the replys.. <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>.

me: so is he a 'lesser true god' or a 'lesser false god?'.

Bang

If I were to attack the trinity that is the way that I would do it because i've been reading alot about how the very first Christian writings had no sign of the trinity contained within then.

But they spoke of the Holy Spirit as God, the Father as God and Jesus as God - and no one else.

Bang

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Question about Bible Translations

by spender in

i've been looking for the past couple of days for a study bible with relatively un-biased commentary, and an accurate translation.

i'd also like to get the strongs concordance...is this a good idea?.

any opinions on bible translations you particularly like and why are appreciated.

Bang

I'd go a sharp RSV (uncommented) including the 'deuterocanonical' texts.

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Bible Error: Peter Denies Knowing Jesus

by JosephAlward in

in the dialogue below, jesus scoffs at peters claim that he will give his life for jesus.

he tells peter that before the sun comes up in the morning--before the rooster crows--peter would that very night pretend he did not even know jesus.. .

readers should note especially that in the john passage below, jesus is predicting that the rooster would not crow until after peter has denied knowing jesus three times.. .

Bang

What are you backward Joseph ?

"I say to you that every one who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart."

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WHAT ABOUT THE STUMBLING BLOCKS?

by You Know in

the underlying assumption of the apostasy is that if the watchtower falls short to a significant degree then it cannot be jehovahs organization.

thats why apostates are hopeful that if enough fault can be found with the organization and brought to the attention of the faithful, then they too will accept the conclusion that jehovahs witnesses are not who we say we are.

unquestionably, many have been stumbled over a multitude of stumbling blocks.

Bang

For example, Paul urged Christian to 'make sure of the more important things so as not to be stumbling each other up until the day of Christ.' That proves that the things that cause stumbling are things in the organization.

Really ? Surely you can't just say things like that at a door and gain a convert.

Is it normal for JWs do the 'LOL' thing all the time ?
You've addressed nothing scriptural that I've posted - but if you do muster a reply of sorts, please spare me that scoffing thing - it's as unbecoming as JWism.

Bang

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Are Jehovah's Witnesses a Cult?

by trevor in

mind control.

when one is a member of a group such as jehovahs witnesses, it is not possible to be aware of the degree to which personal freedoms that are normally taken for granted are lost.

the mind-control techniques used by the watchtower society are by no means unique.

Bang

Are the Kennedys gunshy?

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Can any Witness possibly anwser this question?

by jerome in

hello all... i came across this line of questioning many months on the inet so i decided that i would submit just this once to peer pressure and make a usefull contribution to the board.. here is the question... is jesus just "a god?".

many of the regular inet surfers would have come across this line of questioning before so if you have you could just sit back and relax and read the replys.. <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>.

me: so is he a 'lesser true god' or a 'lesser false god?'.

Bang

I thought I should post that there's lots of gods, even 'household gods' - gods are served and admired, and people are jealous over gods, and desire to keep gods - so then, is it yourself or a new rolex watch, or the car or house?

When people hang on to things, to have them, they become a god for them (give away your coat also). Even sin becomes a god for some, a terrible master, as they don't release it, over shame - worldly glory - they hang on to it, and can even die "in" it. Imagine a JW elder who knows he has preached crap, but just can't admit it because he might have 'failed' to earn the kingdom - like the problem with Judas, a failure while trading, but it wasn't about trading. The prostitutes believe they've totally stuffed up, admit it, relinquish it all, and so enter the kingdom with Christ as saviour, not themselves.

There's lots of gods but not all have life and light within them, and some are called false gods - they don't last forever, the love isn't forever (could be lust).

The sons of God are named as Gods by God, served by Him - God became man for us - as real friends we should be God for God. Putting it simply, it's true friendship - by Him I was born to be His friend - how can I seek a false god ?

Bang

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Knowledge is Power at the Gas pump

by target in

where to buy gasoline and not support terrorism...actually is food for.

thought.

here are some large companies that do not import middle eastern oil:.

Bang

Who maintains that they're christian?
Give your enemy your coat also?

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I have a question--Surviving Armageddon

by Tammie in

ok, i have a hipothectical question.

i have had this thought going through my head for some time now.. now i know some beleive in armageddon and others well they don't.

but let's take this route just for the heck of it.

Bang

You could find out now.

Point out to them that God repented of the evil that He said He was going to do to the Ninevites - remember now, repented, not backed off from a threat or something. That's what it says in Jonah, don't accept any bogus interpretations. You don't need to go into how God can repent. They'll probably tell you that He can't change or something, and that's true, He doesn't. He repents when it's the right thing to do, like when He was sorry about men before the flood.

So ask, what if God repents of what they say He is going to do, and people are fine and 'saved', and even there to greet them and share in the paradise earth - see what they think - tell the elders and check their faces.

Bang